ccommins Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I am taking a course in fine art flower photography. Looking through my upcoming lessons I see sandwiching. Is that the same as layering? Our instructor shows you photos and what was used to take it, but not how to do it. He is very to the point with no explanation. I wanted to get a head start on this ( basically I didn' want to look stupid )I paid alot of money for this course and I really need to pass. Anyone that can help, or has photos for examples, I would greatly appreciate it. My photo software is PSE 5.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_s31 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 <a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandwich_printing>See here. You're going into the world of wet photography. </a><p/>"basically I didn' want to look stupid"<p/>An instructor that belittles their students is unprofessional, incompetent and shouldn't be teaching. And as far as looking stupid, I do it all the time here :-) ...but I sure do learn a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Have you seen any of the results yet? Did they look "dreamy"? Slide sandwiching is often used to great a dreamy look sometimes referred to as "Orton" imagery (after its creator, I believe). A search on Orton photography will turn up a few descriptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandysocks Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Open two shots in the advanced edit window. Move them into layers. Move one layer over the other so that the bottom layer is hidden. Then lighten the opacity of the top layer to see through to the bottom layer. That should get you started anyway. Slide sandwiches though, seem to have more character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim craig Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 If you put two separate slides together in the same mount, you have a slide sandwich. Each slide could be of a different scene; or the same scene but one slightly out of focus or lots of other combinations. It's demonstrated in a number of books, Freeman Patterson, Brenda Tharpe and Tony Sweet all come to mind. I couldn't find any examples in a quick search on Patterson and Tharpe but there are some examples on Tony Sweet's site at: http://www.tonysweet.com/Portfolios/Abstracts/Abs.html It is probably more common today to do it digitally by blending layers, using Gausian Blur, the Opacity slider, using different scenes etc. A montage basically. Michael Orton's technique (mentioned above) is a technique I like and have used it often. Googling his name will provide several references as will using "slide sandwich." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertshults Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Here is a <a href="http://pcin.net/update/2006/11/01/the-orton-effect-digital- photography-tip-of-the-week/" >"digital equivalent"</a> for slide sandwiching, totally doable in PSE 5. This tutorial is for images in perfect register. Michael Orton often applies this technique to images not in perfect register, or occasionally, of entirely different subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccommins Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share Posted January 31, 2008 Thank you for all your help. Members on PN always come through for me. I took a course in PSE 5 and now know that layering is what he was referring to. I also have the book Botanical Dreaming by Mark Johnson he uses both terms. So now I feel more comfortable going into that lesson. Since I am the oldest one in the class (including the instructor) I like to stay one step ahead. Some think us older people belong in the home, but not me. Thank you again for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 Andre Gallant has an explanation of his technique <a href="http://www.andregallant.com/new_galleries/montages/montages.html">here</a> and some fine examples in his galleries. He's a neat guy; if you ever get a chance to hear him speak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl.jahr Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Here is an example: Two slides sandwiched in one frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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