sagephotoworld.com Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 At the moment I'm planning a trip to see my parents who I haven't seen in 3 years. I want to take some decent portraits of them so I'm thinking in terms of mid-range lenses such as the 17-85 and 28-75. I'll also take my 70-300 and I'd like to squeeze in my 420EX, 430EX, XT+BGE3 and STE-2. I had been thinking about a Pelican 1500 on the basis that if there's another security scare and everything gets chucked in the hold again then at least it'll survive the journey. I am not impressed by the pull-out foam. I'd much rather use dividers. Today I looked quickly at a Quantaray case - the 1813 - which seemed solidly built but which had a rather soft foam insert that seemed to me to be too weak for any practical use. In my other thread (I decided a retitled thread was in order) somebody suggested a backpack. That's an interesting option I hadn't considered. I was interested in putting a laptop in but then realised that the laptop alone would be heavy and would take up more space than I'm willing to relinquish unless I went for an eepc which is 8.86" x 6.30" x 0.79-1.26" and at that kind of size I probably could carry a laptop too. Has anybody any backpack suggestions? My preferance is toward a cheaper backpack but only if it's going to protect my gear adequately. Heaven knows - I might end up buying a sheet of thick canvas and start stitching it together myself at this rate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_margolis Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I have suggested here many times that you should *never* put any camera bodies/lenses in your checked baggage. You have a real problem if it doesn't arrive at your destination. As for backpacks, I use Lowepro but others use ThinkTank, Tamrac, etc. My AW MiniTrekker fits my lenses and one body easily and best of all, it fits under my airline seat instead of the overhead compartment. I have traveled four continents with it and no problems at all. I use a separate carry-on for my laptop but Lowepro and others have backpacks large enough to include a laptop. The only downside to a larger bag, it will have to go in the airline overhead. That means boarding early to insure there is space for your bag. If you are interested, check out some of your choices..... http://products.lowepro.com/catalog/Backpacks,2.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 LowePro makes several backpacks (and other bags) that hold a laptop. I have a Computrekker and Computrekker Plus, which have the same capacity as a Minitrekker and Phototrekker respectively. Each has a laptop pocket in the back which adds about an inch to the overall thickness and takes about an inch from the inside. The Computrekker will hold a 15" laptop and the Plus will hold a 17". Both are within the size limits for carryon baggage. A laptop adds a lot of weight, but it makes sense if you are going through Heathrow (1 carry-on max). Otherwise, I carry the laptop in its own case as my "personal" item. Needless to say, the laptop stays behind when I'm out an about during the day. I have a Lenovo T60, which has a 15" screen. Computrekker bags have an ingenious tripod carrier which keeps the tripod really low and in the center, making it more stable when walking. It holds a Gitzo G-1227 (24") or G-1340 (27") with ease. Most of the time I just carry the tripod by hand or on a shoulder strap. Thinktank backpacks (and rollers) have provisions for laptops too. My "Airport Addicted" has a zipper pouch in the back, like the Lowepro bags. Some have laptop attachments which strap to the front of the bag. I can't say much for the tripod carrier. Around home, I use the computer pocket for Color Checker charts, maps and one or more of my floppy hats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 You have to assume that you may have to check everything, despite what Bruce Margolis says. I was in England when one of the periodic changes of security regulations happened, and only carried on a paperback book. I wasn't allowed anything else. Nat Geo photographers travel the world with huge amounts of gear checked, so do video crews. While it is best to try to take as much as you can on the plane, it isn't always possible. Also, smaller aircraft may force you to check everything because there just isn't room. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_margolis Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Jeff, your situation was very unique and it applies only when flying out of the UK. Yes, they had more carry-on restrictions than anyone but are coming into line with other countries now. It has no effect on his flight to get there. Interesting, in Paris I had to go through three security checks before boarding. Nevertheless, they still allowed the usual two carry-ons. For regional airlines, I have had to check my laptop case but I still carry on my photo backpack and laptop. Never a problem. As for NG and other pros, of course they check their equipment. Well, at least most of it. But no one messes with their gear. The stuff that always ends up missing comes from tourists and you will have a fight trying to get reimbursed. My wife likes to use TSA locks. At least she used to. She learned the hard way, even the locks were stolen on two separate flights. Any reimbursement? Get real. Yeah, I suppose it's possible that at any given point in time, there could be extreme airport security issues. I am sure if TSA and other countries had their way, everyone would board naked with no carry-ons. Fortunately we haven't got to that point yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 I find it very strange that airline baggage in the US is taken at traveller's risk with no compensation if it's stolen. That's how it appears to be anyway. The fact that everything can be thrown into the hold at the whim of airline security without due regard to actual risk does have me hovering over a Pelican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 If you have a problem with size at the boarding gate (highly unusual), you can usually check the bag there. If so, it goes into a special cargo area rather than the general baggage hold. In practical terms, the risk of loss always falls on the traveler, unless you value your gear at $50 a pound. That's why we have insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 My understanding was that luggage that was checked was not permitted insurance by the insurance companies. Having said that, I'm now looking at the 1504 as a potential case. That has the benefits of the padded dividers and a hard exterior. I looked at the Lowepro backpacks and they all seemed to be over the 9" depth limit. I realise that they squash a bit but I have seen some very pedantic boarding staff. Similarly the Tamrac bags are long on fat and thin on the other dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Bizarre but on paper the Canon backpack looks the right size and best value. All I need do is to cover the Canon logo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeseb Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Depending on how set you are on a backpack--if it's not an ironclad rule for you, look at <a href="http://www.thinktankphoto.com" target="_blank">ThinkTank Photo's</a> Airport International. It meets carryon size requirements for all international carriers and holds an amazing amount of gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phyrpowr Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Rhys I would look at dimensions, sturdiness of shell, and locks/hinges/etc. first...you can get DIY padding anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yes. I'm looking at different options. There are a lot of sturdy cases in Sportsman's Warehouse used for carrying pistols that look quite decent. Having said that, the Pelican 1500 is sold there as a pistol case with the pluck foam. Ritz has for $60 a rather nifty Quantaray case that is small enough to fit within all the specified dimensions. I know my longest lens if 5.6" long from end to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phyrpowr Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Most guncases are going to be a little light on weather sealing, double check that if ordering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Rhys, In general, your gear is insured under all circumstances, not just when you have it in your hand. Check your policy for restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Jack - you're absolutely right. The guncases are light on weathersealing aside from the Pelican 1750 Weapons case which is very desirable. The cheapo Quantaray case is light on weathersealing and padding. Actually, padding really isn't a great issue. I have a hot glue gun, a knife and a roll of 1/4" closed cell foam from a camping shop. I found in Britain my camera bags had bad padding in places and I used that to replace the ineffective padding. Best of all - it was dirt cheap! It keeps coming back to that Pelican 1500, doesn't it? It fits the space and I think I can keep my 420EX, 420EX and 70-300 IS in vertical orientation which saves a ton of space. I do know that it doesn't have backpack portability. On the other hand, that Canon 200 backpack looks pretty darned good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 In the end I bought the Canon 200EG backpack from B&H. I figure that if it will hold everything people say it will then I'm going to be very happy. I went out and measured just about every box and bag around. The Pelican 1500 is very desirable but the only reason I went for the cheaper Canon backpack rather than the hard case that I originally desired was that I thought it might be nice to have both hands free. I only intend to take one suitcase - a hard sided case. As that will have wheels, I could carry a Pelican but a backpack is so much more convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 hobbyists are the most anal people...stamps, coins, rc, photog's. just how do you think your cam got to you from japan/malaysia/china/germany/etc? as a 'carry on'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 27, 2008 Author Share Posted January 27, 2008 Not anal. I just want my stuff to arrive safely. I've seen my suitcase on the conveyer belt, half open at airports before now. I'm also well aware of Heathrow airport's nickname of "thiefrow" due to the organised baggage theft rings operating behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohir_ali Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 Get a better bag. my hartman and halliburton bags have never failed me. i even stow my laptop with my clothes in checked luggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagephotoworld.com Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hidden lever locks? They cannot possibly catch on anything - they have to be physically opened. I normally use a hard-sided suitcase with hidden lever locks - you have to put some effort in to open those - they don't open accidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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