marke_gilbert Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Just wondering if anyone else has run into this-- I finally got around to testing my 135mm F2 DC lens. When at near close focus distance, wide open, the lens appears to be focusing about 1/2 inch in front of the focus point. Adjusting the DC ring about 1/2 way between "O" and "Front 2" make the pint of focus much sharper. Sent it to Nikon-- returned as "being within specs"-- told it was my camera. Immediately mounted the lens on a different camera, exact same result. Returned the lens again to Nikon. Now, after the return, they are still claiming there is nothing wrong with the lens. Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldnt the lens be at its sharpest at the focus point WITHOUT having to adjust the DC ring? Here are sample images, obviously tripod mounted, etc...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke_gilbert Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 DC ring at "Front 1"<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke_gilbert Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 sorry, those are not clear at all-- here are a couple crops<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke_gilbert Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 and again,<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 You're both correct in my view. Nikons' correct in that it is in spec, and you are correct in that with your usage with this particular lens, that's the setting that gives you the sharpness you expect. The lens as you know has the adjustable DC feature, adjusting slightly one element which then shifts the optical formula to +/- the amount of SA. IMO the 0 setting is not always optimum, the one I used I tended to prefer a slight correction to the front as well, just like you found it to be sharper. Its a by-product of having an adjustable optical system, each individual lens will require a bit of testing to dial it in. Is it defective? No, not in my view, if it was unsharp at all settings it would be. As well, its also probably due to the fact you are using digital, which seems to be sensitive to SA. The 135DC was designed pre-digital, so lucky you that you can dial in the precise amount of SA to match your sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Sorry, SA in my post means Spherical Aberation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Ah, you were using at close up distances. That's why Nikon made CRC, adjusts for close up. 135DC does not have CRC, just DC and RF. Most lenses lose performance close up, so making a slight adjustment to maintain optimum performance is a small price to pay. Don't forget the Zeiss 50mm FLE which has a whole separate ring to match the optical system to the distance. You'd focus, then set the FLE ring to the distance. Forget to do the FLE ring and your sharp Zeiss would be more than a bit soft. Great in theory but fast use in the field was big PITA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke_gilbert Posted December 8, 2007 Author Share Posted December 8, 2007 Thanks Christiaan, I had considered the issue of close range correction-- but if that were the case, why does the point 1/2 inch closer to the camera appear sharp without correction applied? Shouldnt the focus point still be the sharpest, but possibly not as sharp as when adjustments are made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefDevos Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Welcome to the club of unhappy DC lens owners http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00N7lY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudymerz Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi Mark, I am having the same problem with my 105DC. And this goes on since over a month. The lens was already 2 times at Nikon. And it is now worse than it was before. On Monday I will send it in the 3rd time with my D2x. The lens shows this problem with my D80 and F100 as well. Here is a 100% crop. Rudy<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudymerz Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Here is the full size image.<p> <a href="http://www.avianart.com/105dc/105dc-full.jpg"> 105dc-full.jpg</a><p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey_edelstein1 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 I would sell it and get one of the following instead. Nikon 85mm f1.4; Zeiss 100mm f2.0 or the Voigtlander 125mm f2.5. Nikon is AF the others are manual focus. No more out of focus shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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