eddes Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 After a year of experimenting with an inexpensive continuous light kit, I am ready to step up to some serious stuff. I cannot stand the heat anymore and want more that my 2x500 watt tungsten lamps can give me and more color consistency. I mostly do an still lifes (80%)with the occasional portrait. I want to buy either elinchrom style 600RX or profoto compact 600 plus. I am not sure which to buy. They both have a kit with 2 units to get started. I do like the variable focus of the profoto. In the future, I will probably be matching what I buy now with photoflex softboxes and other accessories. I believe the elinchrom has a greater range of power adjustability. Any thoughts on one or the other. I find the Profoto sexier but they are certainly better reasons to pick one or the other. Thanks Edmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan_stiles Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I've only used the variable focus a hand full of times on my Speedo heads that have them. The Elinchrom has a lot of plastic in it, and not that sturdy (the Profoto does look sexy *lol*). The Profoto also has a faster recycle time, though for still life, either should be fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 The focus feature is useful when using various types and sizes of soft-boxes and other light shaping accessories. However, it does make the Profoto mono heads longer in length. I previously used Elinchrom monos but experienced too many intermittent missed flashes during sequence shooting ... primarily from 2 different heads. So I sold them and moved to Profoto 600Rs ... I highly recommend getting the R versions with the built-in Pocket Wizard receivers. If you don't have a system already going to match up to, consider looking at Hensel. The radio control on that system allows setting flash heads from the camera position without doing it on the head itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 between those two I'd be looking more seriously at Profoto for the reasons cited above. But why those two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klifton_keplinger Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I own the Hensel's, and while the radio remotes are awesome for controlling the lights (though you have to count off the clicks and they only adjust in 1/10 stop increments); beware of firing them in close proximities or if there's much of a barrier between the remote and lights... I do get intermittent firing sometimes. Even if you use the inbuilt remotes, I would suggest PW's for firing them if you're in a critical situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddes Posted December 6, 2007 Author Share Posted December 6, 2007 I put those two on my short list because my "local" supplier (vistek in canada) has Elinchrom, Profoto, Speedotron. Speedotron does not have a kit to start and their compact units seam less interesting. BTW by local I mean 1000 miles away. So it is difficult to go see some units. Thanks Edmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter_hopkins Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Speedotron does offer a "Kit" with the Force 5 & 10 monolights. I have the Force 10 kit (approx $2,000), it includes 2 Force 10's, 2 9' heavy duty air cushioned light stands, 2 48" umbrellas, a 36"x38" softbox, 2 synch cords, 2 7" reflectors, and a heavy duty case suitable for airline use. The Speedo's are very well built. I have found that they offer an excellent trade off between quality and price, especially when you consider the price of accessories for some of the other brands...Profoto / Bron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_planta Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Speedotrons are tanks(can take a beating but they are really heavy), heavy duty shooting. I really like the ProFotos(Quality of light....wow) but I would pick the pack and heads over the mono's if I were to purchase new(just a personal preference, I found the pack and heads more flexible - or sexier?). Elinchrom build I found a little plastic-y... I love Hensel! I think they are highly underrated, if you can afford a Porty - get it! PLEASE dont get photoflex - flimsy construction, every Photoflex product I have seen/used seems to break or tear. Plus Photoflex on Profoto is just wrong. Chimera at the very least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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