turgut_tarhan Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 <p>The recent samples on the internet make me think if D300 has a less aggressive anti-aliasing filter; since they look sharper & more detailed at pixel level when compared to D200, contrary to what one may expect a less sharper image at 100% magnification because of increased resolution from 10 to 12mp.<br> <br> Good news if so; while D200's strong AA filter ruined some of the details that could be useful in landscapes, for the sake of (possible) moire. Though more difficult, moire may be tamed in postprocessing instead; but it's not possible to regain details once lost by that filter. Interesting, <a href="http://www.maxmax.com/nikon_d200hr.htm">this company</a> removes AA filters from stock D200 and calls it D200HR; the results shown look very promising.<br> <br> I almost always photograph raw (though not the only reason, but Nikon's in- camera jpg interpretation is lossy vs Canon's), use apertures around f/8, show best effort to eliminate any possible softness caused by shake or poor focus, set the sharpening to max. and apply extra USM (eg. 100,1,0) as much as the image may accept after upsampling to double-spread size. <br> <br> My short-term aim is to see a photograph printed on the magazine matching 645 Velvia-scan in terms of color reproduction, detail & dynamic range. Therefore, I'm impatient to get one D300.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Turgat, see this thread initiated by Ellis Vener: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00MrJd I would think that it would be more difficult to remove the AA/IR cut filter from the D300 since it also has a dust reduction contraption on the AA/IR cut filters. When you say 645 Velvia scan, which camera/lens do you have in mind? Why would you want to ruin the colors from a D300 by removing the filter pack on the sensor? Are you very interested in producing images in red/magenta? I have made magenta captures on Velvia in low light and not taking care of reciprocity factors. So, I know it is doable. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lahuasteca Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 No need for a separate post, so a friendly question to go along with Turgut's - which has the weakest AA filter of the three - D80, D200, or D300? My current camera is a D70s, which has a weaker AA filter than the D200. My style of shooting is outdoors, overland trekking stuff, landscape and people - usually good light and ISO 200-400 so I really don't worry about moire. The strength (or better phrased) weakness of the AA filter is the deciding factor. The D300 would seem to be the camera I'm looking for, but the grenading U.S. dollar might put it out of reach, so I may have to consider the D80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 "Nikon's in- camera jpg interpretation is lossy vs Canon's" JPEG compression is by it's nature a lossy process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gy Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Ellis, sure the jpeg compression is lossy by its nature but what Turgut tried to mention is Canon does a better job of jpg process than the Nikon..If you check dpreview's comparison tests, it is easily evident that there is a clear difference.. jpeg's from Canon are more close to what you can get from Raw conversion in terms of sharpness. Nikon's jpeg's are more soft and lacks the "punch" which I also experience with my D80.. And Turgut, I dont think this will change with D300 as well.. in camera jpeg's still looks soft to me from the samples I have seen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris hughes Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Not to be a dick but... in my opinion, anyone doing in camera jpeg processing gets what he/she deserves. You want good images? You have to do your own post processing. Same as back when we were shooting film. You could go get a Polaroid or have the local FotoMat do your printing but if the prints came out bad, you'd have no one to blame but yourself. With digital, if you're not doing your own post processing in Photoshop or similar software then don't expect excellent results from Canon OR Nikon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lahuasteca Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 As Shun pointed out to me in another post, D300 has minimum ISO of 200. I need the ISO 100 (waterfalls and background blur for street candids) - looks like I get the D200. Found one new for $1,379 at Cameta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_hart2 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 D300 has a low ISO 100 setting, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars790 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Joseph, the D300's native low ISO is 200. The ISO 100 is an enhanced setting and on the D300 it's called Lo 1. I have seen examples and i can safely say that there will probably be a slight loss of dynamic range and highlights blown more easily as the whites are exaggerated a bit. Maybe it will produce nice waterfall images, who knows? I'm curious to find out many things about this camera and I should have mine tomorrow and start tinkering. I'm hoping you're right about the weaker AA filter compared to the D200. Actually, I was thinking about what i should do with my D200 (after i get comfortable with my new beauty of course). Having the AA filter removed is intriguing although I'd like to hear from several daring photogs who have no regrets. Then i could have my D70 converted for IR and have a unique trifecta. Anyone experienced with AA removal on the D200 and do you think that it would be beneficial for interior work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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