yeffe Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 "Jeff. You've gotta be kidding. Yes - I think burkahs are it. Either nude or burkahs. Those are our choices. Blinders? Of course. There's surely nothing between." When I arrived at college as a freshman, in 1966, handbills had been posted all over campus: LOOK AT HOW YOU LOOK AT HER! It was a powerful message that i'm sure cowed some lothario wannabees including myself. But it's a point that still needs to be made to some misguided men. As the proverb goes: "When a beggar meets a prophet he sees only his purse." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeffe Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Sorry, I mangled that: When a pickpocket meets a saint he only sees his pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddox Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Janet, thank you for re-joining the discussion. In response to your comment: >>>Michael, No. Of course not. If I thought that I would have said just that - nude figures. Surely you can tell the difference and know what kind of images so many take issue with? Honestly. These go round and round.<<<... I honestly did not think you considered them all "seductively posed." Who could, after all? And yes, I do certainly know the kind of images that so many people take issue with... tacky, tasteless... the list of adjectives goes on and on. But when I hear or read the term "nude photograph," it is the better of the genre that first comes mind, not the worst. Your response to Jeff that "There's surely nothing between" helps to illustrate the point that I'm trying to make: The whole genre of nude photography is not exclusively about tantalizing men with sexual imagery of "the forbidden." Surely in your experience you have seen one or two examples of the genre that you thought were decent, or beautiful, or thought-provoking? -Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janet cull Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 >>>Surely in your experience you have seen one or two examples of the genre that you thought were decent, or beautiful, or thought-provoking? <<< Yes, I have. And thank you for your thoughtful, honest response again. I love it when people can dialog honestly without attacks and defenses. I like it so much here when that goes on! Janet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeffe Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 It's all about one's comfort level. That may be about sex, or about something else. FI: I love Jock Sturges' work. If his prints are showing in town I'll go out of my way to see them. But I'd never want to own one and poring over his books by myself would make me feel a bit odd. The openness and intimacy between model and photographer is what's on display in his work and I'd feel just as I would if I were walking on a beach and stumbled upon his photo session: Umm... excuse me. I'm frankly amazed that his subjects consent for their images to be part of the collections of people they'll never meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knifeinthewater Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 this is my personal opinion, i don't expect anyone to agree with it, but i take nude photographs because, in my opinion, the human body is the most beautiful thing ever, and i want to capture that. thats all. many people also feel that way, thats why they too enjoy nude photography. now, but that can also be said about porn. yes many people find it pleasing, but only in a shallow, hedonistic sense, and, personally, for me, it loses all it's beauty. that doesn't mean that to some people porn can't be artistic. art is whatever you make of it. tasteful nude photographs or a "chick getting rammed up the asshole", everyone has to decide that for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hana_mohalo Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Well I can say this about all photographers on the internet: if you start shooting nudes, your pageviews will more than triple and you gain instant popularity (among other fellow erotic photographers, teenage boys, internet perves). Everybody is compelled to the human form. (Or repulsed by it in some cases). There's two reactions to a nude: "oooh click on it!", or "RUN AWAY!" Most people like to look. For art's sake, for desire, to get off, to compare, to complain... To me a nude that is about the art and not the body, is art. here are many photos, where lighting is just dead on, unflattering, and so posed (model smiling fakely... thinking "OMG I'm NAKED!! UMM KEWL" But who am I to judge? I don't do nudes... I do look at them, for whatever reason, I'm drawn to nudity, I'm curious. Men and women, fat, thin, ugly, artsy, stupid, pornographic... I always look at a nude. I can vouch for about 90% of the population I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelfoster Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Erica, I apologize for not seeing this earlier. Email me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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