claus_cheng Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I will do the Southwest next year.... and I would like to do serious photo shooting during the trip. I use a Nikon D200(12-24/17-55/70-200) and I get a D300 soon. I ask myself... if I should mount the lenses on both bodies? One body with 12-24 and the other one with 70-200, but I think it's too heavy when I do a longer hike. Folks, what do you think or what are your recommendations??? Thanks in advance for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 If you are talking about the US South West, you'll be mainly shooting landscapes, and you should have plenty of time to change lenses. Therefore, if weight becomes an issue, I would hike with only one camear body and leave the other in the car (or somewhere safe) as a backup. The more important lenses will be the wide ones if you have to choose for weight reasons. However, a tripod would be useful. People use two bodies with different lenses in situations where they have no time to change lenses. E.g. some sports photographers (400mm/f2.8 + 70-200mm/f2.8) and wedding photographers do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivid_earth_photographics Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 If you have ever hikes with camera equipment before, you know you abilities better than anyone else. If you haven't hiked before with all your equipment, STOP. Think very carefully about the weight of what you intend to bring. Load a backpack with your anticipated load and go for a mile or two walk in your neighborhood to get a sense of what it is like to carry it all. Camera, 2-3+ lenses, tripod+head, batteries, possibly a backup device like a Wolverine, possibly a flash, filters...it adds up fast. Add to that water bottles (and you need a lot of water), & personal items you'll be carrying. By taking a little time to "practice," you'll get a sense of whether you need to edit or if you can add to the load, and you'll also have the advantage of knowing if the pack you have is the right one for you. It's amazing how a pack that feels great in the store suddenly gives you second thoughts on the trail when it is weighted down and if the tripod keeps falling off because a retaining strap continually loosens, or certain pockets are inconvenient to access, how dust and sand collect on a key zipper that you must open to access the camera thus contaminating the clean interior too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik_loza Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I only carry one body in the pack, and the backup is in the car/ back at camp. As others have pointed out, weight will be an issue. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy s. Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I have been to the SW US many many times. I always bring with me more camera equipment than I can use. :) Bring both camera bodies with you and a bunch of lenses. When you go hiking out take one body and the lenses (but no redundant lenses). That is how I did it and I was shooting mostly film. I used to bring a P&S with me too. I produced a DVD of my various trips out to the SW and fully 80% of the photos on the DVD were taken with my little Kodak DX 4900...... It is light and handy and sometimes absolutely perfect for grabbing a shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_margolis Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Claus, if those are the only lenses you are carrying, I think it would be easy to pack two bodies in a backpack. Like you said, one with the 12-24, the other with the 70-200. I often pack 5 lenses so substituting one body for a couple lenses would be no big deal. You have the benefits of not having to change lenses as well as a backup with a fresh battery and CF card. I agree with Shun, a tripod is a must. My backpack load (with tripod) is usually about 20 lbs. If I were packing extra lenses, I would definitely pass on the extra body but less weight is always good, especially for the long hikes. I like Kyle's idea of trying it out but remember, it can get very very hot in the Southwest depending on when you plan to go. A 20-lb load on your back can get real heavy in 100+(F) temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank uhlig Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 You ask: "2 bodies on vacation?" Of course 2 bodies are better than one when the nights get cold in the southwestern deserts. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulrik Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Thou shalt carry backups ! Ulrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_thompson Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 With the ability to change ISO on digital bodies you need to decide if the cost of carrying more weight is worth the gain of not changing lenses more frequently and "exposing" your sensor to more opportunities to get dusty. I would carry both with the lenses you think you will use most mounted and carry the extra lens in a vest or pack with my tripod on my shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtfritz Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Claus, I would say it comes down to whatever else you think you'll be needing out in the dessert. If you plan on going in the summer, then water would out-weigh having a second body/lens. If your subjects plan to be the wildlife in early morning then you can lose the extra water and bring the second cam/lens if you plan to be in position early and clear out before the sun gets going, the animals go back in and the day heats up. If your subjects are landscapes, then take only one camera/lens. If you plan long hikes with a pack and other gear, take one camera and two lenses to lighten the load. I guess my advice is coming from my climbing side in that it depends on what you're specifically planning to have precisely the lightest most versatile solution. Good luck either way, and don't forget the essentials ie water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I think you'd be better off with something light such as a D40x or D80 as the back up, and not buy the D300. With the money you save, you could buy an 80-400mm VR. The land is vast and I constantly find a use for 400mm in landscapes. You will also come across wildlife and the 200mm is just too short most of the time. You don't mention what if any tripod you have. If the answer is none, again your money would be FAR better spent on a good Gitzo carbon fiber with first class lightweight ballhead than on a D300, which so far seems to have no real advantage over the D200. OTOH, you will see an increase in quality if using a first class tripod/head. Kent in SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Stone Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Next year? What season? I ask because in the summer here, it is a very bad idea to leave photo equipment locked up in a car due to the extreme high temperatures. With that in mind, if you come here in the summer, I would plan to leave whatever equipment that you aren't going use right then, in a hotel, or wherever you are lodged. If you plan out your daily excursions in advance, then you will have a pretty good idea of what gear to carry along. If you plan to come during a more moderate season, then that's another story. In any event, I would not plan to hike with more than one body, and that would go double if a 70-200 was mounted. I've done that carrying everything mounted on a monopod, and I certainly didn't have room to carry anything else. The 17-55 or the 12-24 and one body would be better for hiking, IMO, unless you have specific need to have the 70-200 along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akajohndoe Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 It's hardly a vacation without a couple of bodies interacting. :) Seriously, I usually carry an extra camera body unless I'm going to be near enough a city large enough to be able to replace a broken body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claus_cheng Posted September 26, 2007 Author Share Posted September 26, 2007 I will travel mid of October... the longer hikes are Coyote Buttes North, Wire Pass, Paria Canyon, and Lower Creek Falls. I will use my Gitzo/Markins M20 (a must in the slot canyons) of course. Thanks again... for all your helpful answers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemked Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 When it came to film I always carried two, one usually with Velvia and a second with something like ASA 200-400 film and 4 lenses. Shorter hikes I often brought a 6X7 for landscapes (2-3 lenses) and 35mm backup(fortunately I shoot Pentax and can use the 67 lenses on the 35mm body). With a good pack I found it pretty easy to hike 12 miles in rough country with this setup. Now I usually carry one digital and one film SLR and about 4 lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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