gary_anthes Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I'm printing with Epson K3 pigment inks on Epson Premium Luster paper, and I'm getting an outgassing film on the inside of the glass a few weeks after framing. I follow the standard prevention, letting the print dry in the open air at least 24 hours, sometimes 48 hours, followed by covering it with plain paper for 24-48 hours. I still get the problem, very slight with some prints but quite noticeable with others. The prints are dry-mounted and matted and framed under glass with metal frames. Anyone have a solution other than leaving them unframed for a much longer period of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I think Bill Atkinson recommends putting in a drawer covered with good paper and switching the paper out after 24 hours. Check his site: http://www.billatkinson.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I've had good luck hot-mounting Premium Luster (Epson 2200), which is sufficient to drive out any moisture. None seem to have "outgassed" leaving a deposit on the glass. There was always at least 3 days elapsed between printing and framing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_smith4 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 What environmental conditions are the prints sitting in? Is it humid where you are? What drymounting process are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qtluong Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Use a hair dryer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van_camper Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I set mine up in front of a 230 volt commercial 12x12inch 4500watt garage heater for an hour when I want to frame for larger prints, a regular household 1500 watt heater for smaller prints. That gets the last bit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randmcnatt Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 We use the oven. Preheat to "Warm", turn if off and put the prints on a clean rack, leave the door cracked and let it cool down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_anthes Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 Yes, it's very humid here (D.C.) in the summer but they are inside most of the time where it is air-conditioned. Using some kind of heater is an intriguing idea, but I'd worry about altering the colors or buckling the paper. I may give that a try. I don't know what process my framer uses but he said the temperature gets up close to 200 F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickhilker Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 The hair dryer works very well, Gary, and causes no color change or buckling. I give every print, regardless of paper or ink, three coats of Print Shield U/V spray after the heat treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.whitemountainphoto.com Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Gary, humid here in New Hamshire too. Same problem. If possible, I try to let them dry 5 days or more between sheets of paper and the problem goes away. FYI, for me, drymounting did NOT solve it for prints that had not dried properly-still got the outgassing fog occaisonally. Also, I find it much worse when printing at 2880 than 1440 (twice the ink-twice the time). Good luck. Dana/<a href="http://www.whitemountainphoto.com">www.whitemountainphoto.com</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_anthes Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 Thanks, all. Looks like some combo of heat and longer "curing" is the answer. Not convenient, but so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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