kittybuddha Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Anyone have a clue how Nicolass de Bruin - http://www.ndbmphoto.com - lights his close-up beauty shots? I'm speaking specifically about the two beauty shots of the women with fur hoods. I love the sparkling, shimmering quality of his photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I'm not sure I see sparkle and shimmer, but I do see a smooth tonality in all his pictures that comes from shooting MF. Do not forget to pay attention to the lighting and make-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 The idea that smooth tonality comes from shooting MF is a myth. Smooth tonality comes from using soft boxes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emre Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I am not referring to that. Look at the incredible amount of color detail. You do not get that from a 6MP Bayer-arrayed DSLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 6MP Bayer has 1024 columns of *perfect* color detail in vertical orientation, but let's say the lens is not very sharp, so we call it 800. Vertical pictures on his site are 406-412 pixels wide, so the lowly 6MP Bayer is more than enough. His horizontal pictures are somewhat less impressive than vertical ones, but maybe I haven't found good samples. I'm not saying he shot these pictures with a 10D, I'm just saying that 10D is perfectly enough for previews of this quality on a website.<br /><br /> All said is fine, but -- guess what -- Photoshop's default is 2x2 px color smoothing algorithm for JPEGs -- meaning you have 2x less color resolution in *any* JPEG on the web unless you explicitly specify 1x1 px sampling in ImageMagick.<br /><br /> If you don't believe me, try using Lanczos downsampling via ImageMagick on your pictures instead of Photoshop's default Bicubic. Choose 1x1 sampling for JPEGs. Also, abstain from *any* sharpening except for a weak 0.3px unsharp mask when resized. To me this was like opening my eyes...<br /><br /> Of course, make up retouching, and having models under 30 plays a not-so-small role as well. But *the* major role is just taking time to correctly set up a large softbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 <p>Since Emre never believes me until I prove things to him :), here is an example:</p> <center> <img src="http://eugenescherba.com/medium/46cc95f92aaf1" /> </center> <br /> <p>This is an example of good color resolution. The image is a 1017-pixel wide crop from an 8-megapixel Canon 20D RAW file (scroll down to see the entire image), processed with <a href="http://www.iridientdigital.com/products/ rawdeveloper.html">RAW Developer</a> with Richardson-Lucy deconvolution (30 iterations with 0.5 px kernel). The width was reduced to 400 px using Lanczos downsampling with ImageMagick, and a JPEG was created with 92% quality and 1x1 subsampling option. Unsharp mask was applied with 0.4 px radius, 0.4 px sigma, and "+1" amount in ImageMagick. Notice the fine detail in the red-dyed fur coat.</p> <center> <img src="http://eugenescherba.com/medium/46cc96748f83f" /> </center> <br /> <p>This is an example of <i>poor</i> color resolution. Processing exactly the same as above <i>except</i> 2x2 subsampling was selected for JPEG output. Note that the detail in fur is lost due to JPEG chroma subsampling.</p> <center> <img src="http://eugenescherba.com/medium/46cc97296fba6" /> </center> <br /> <p> This is the entire image. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittybuddha Posted August 22, 2007 Author Share Posted August 22, 2007 Thanks, everyone. However, my question was about lighting. "A great photograph is 90% lighting." - Richard Avedon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene_scherba Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 The pictures you're talking about are mostly backlit by the sky, with a touch of softened fill flash. This can be done with pretty much any flash with a softening modifier, however the flash should not "sit" on top of the camera, but should be handled by your assistant. Make sure you're able to adjust flash exposure compensation. How you get the prodigious lens flare ("sparkle and shimmer") that's another question; I suppose the best way is just to use lenses that exhibit flare and wish yourself luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_cropper Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 eugene - yes please, this was about lighting, not post production work, although we got your point loud and clear, i think its meant for another post ;-)))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolaas_de_bruin2 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I am glad there is an interest in my lighting..... honestly the magic start before and after lighting. It is makeup and post production (retouching). Light needs to be right, but I don't spend hours lighting models..there is no time to do this. I use pretty simple lighting that makes the model looks great (we decide which light modifier we use once the model is on set......or during meetings with clients/mags we decide on which model would look best with the light the client prefers). Hope this all makes sense.....by the way we use 35mm and medium format digital camera's.....and after retouching it is very hard to see the difference between the 2...there is a difference, but it is only for the trained eye to discover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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