jia_shi_li Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Is the Titanium version of the M6 more bondable against use and wear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 The collective wisdom is that the titanium plating (only the surface is titaium) does make the camera more resitant to scratches and wear. But who really knows. People who buy the titanium M6 are not likely to test its wear resistance characteristics by frequent or hard usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostly sports Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Wouldn't the brass topped cameras be the most wear resistant? M4 and LHSA M6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_chu2 Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Mitchell, The titanium finish is obtained by bombardment of the brass top plate with titanium. It is actually a few angstroms thick. It is unlike the chrome and black chrome finish which is applied to the surface. The titanium is more durable. I have had one in use for seven plus years and it shows only a few faint bright marks. Because it is a brass based topplate, it subject to dings and dents. I have a couple of small dings and dents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto_watson_garc_a Posted May 28, 2002 Share Posted May 28, 2002 Henry what shape those dings take, does the titanium mask bends, brakes, or separate? <p> or just follows the brass ding shape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 The titanium covering renders the surface more resistant to the normal wear, acids from fingers, and superficial scratches; but it is too thin to prevent dings and dents. The latter would require that the entire thickness of the metal was composed of titanium. The resistance to dings and dents reflects that of the underlying metal (which in this case is brass). Thus, the titanium plating provides cosmetic protection but not additional protection to the internal components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_chu2 Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 Eliot is right about the lack of protection from dings and dents. The ones I have are the ones similar to those seen on the M2's, 3's, and 4's. It's the brass that is soft and yields to the trauma. The finish seems to hold up better than, let's say, a black chrome M6 where the black rubs off and a silver finish can be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_yik1 Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 How comes this is just a coating and not titanium throughout? its not as if the body shell is that hard to mould? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip_williams Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 Titanium is a pretty difficult metal to machine, requiring special, high cost tooling. The top plates of the current M6TTL/M7 are machined from a single billet of brass on a CNC machine. It's probably not a cost that Leica wants to invest in, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny_c. Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 I am using all (100%)Titanium (shell) hand-waist watch and frame for my eye glasses. They are all in odd shapes which I think are no less easy to make than a would-be solid top/bottom plates of a Leica M camera. I probaly paid only a little more (may be double or $100 more) for each over the non-Titanium material products. All Titanium camera shell, if used, could be perfect meterial. Not only for its tough and light weight but also its dull to look and fun to touch traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew n.bra hrefhttp Posted May 29, 2002 Share Posted May 29, 2002 <I>How comes this is just a coating and not titanium throughout?</I><P> See the long, detailed answer in the FAQ at: <A HREF="http://nemeng.com/leica/043b.shtml">nemeng.com/leica /043b.shtml</A> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david k. Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Just stumbled across this thread, and there seems to be a lot of confusion and mis-information about the M6 Titanium. This is quite easy to understand as the Leica marketing department probably doesn't know either, if they did they did a terrible job of relaying it to potential buyers. So ironically they have turned the most durable finished Leica into a collectors item as there were not many sold. As a M6 Titanium owner and someone who also works in the aerospace industry, I can tell you the Solms engineering people did an excellent job on this product, its too bad the marketing guys dropped the ball. The Titanium finish as people call it is in fact Titanium Nitrite - TiN, You will find this at your local hardware store on all kinds of cutting tools (drills, blades etc.) and is the toughest finish known to man. Much tougher than pure Titanium metal, so while Titanium is used in the aerospace industry for it strength and light weight, TiN is also used in the aerospace industry to protect surfaces working under extreme conditions. TiN is vacuum deposited in a slow and expensive process, but the result is one of the best wearing surfaces known. On the M6 Titanium the top plate is brass, so if the camera is dropped the soft brass material will dent easily, however the wear resistance of the Titanium Nitrate finish is exceptional, - some people even think it looks nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 <p>Found one in Japan in excellent condition on the cheap. Yipee for me.</p> kivis Cameras, lenses, and fotos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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