jim_karthauser Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi all, I am looking for a fast 'normal' lens for my 30D. I have looked at the canon 28mm f1.8 (the 2.8 is too slow) and the sigma 30mm f1.4.<BR> Has anyone got real experience with these, or are any others in this range highly commended?<BR>I would be shooting some weddings, and rock gigs, as well as some BMX shots in the late evening- using flashes of course for the outdoor. <BR>I already have the 10-22mm as well as the 18-55mm (which is waay to slow for this) and an old 70-210mm, I hope to eventually get the 17-55 f2.8 for general use but I need a fast 'normal' prime as well.<BR> Thanks in advance<BR> PS I am looking at about 200-300 GBP.<BR> PPS I am also aware the 28mm is quite wide traditionally, obviously this is not the case on the 1.6 body though.<BR> Cheers<BR> Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinke Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 i've used them both on the 30d, and they are both very good. i now use the 28 w/ a 5d. it's even better. don't get too crazy about your decision. if you can try them out then do so. the sigma may have the potential to offer better "pop" through separation and background blur. canon is available in more places and can be used full-frame. sigma offers nice hood and case. if you decide on the sigma then i'd recommend sigma4less. great service at about the best price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen sullivan Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 How do you define, "Normal?" That is when you have lenses (1.6x) that cover you from 28mm to 210mm. I suppose I could suggest this... (210mm - 28mm) / 2 = 91mm Buy yourself the new EF-S 60mm {60mm x 1.6 = 96mm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve torelli Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 The Canon 35 f/2. Nice,sharp,little lens comparable in size and weight to the 28mm 1.8. Probably as close to a normal 50mm lens' perspective on a cropped sensor as you can get. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Why not the cannon 35 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinke Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/58029312 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/59954317 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/57075613 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/61971607 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/80745062 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I would only consider the 28mmF1.8 from the two you mention because the 30mm sigma will not fit FF, but that is a personal bias. These might be of interest to read, perhaps a few lateral suggestions yopu might consider: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00L96S http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00LMdj http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00LQJE WW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 <cite>How do you define, "Normal?"</cite> <p>Take your pick: either whatever gives approximately the same field of view on a given camera as a 50mm lens does on a 35mm camera, or (more formally) a lens whose focal length is approximately equal to the diagonal of the sensor/film (which, for 35mm film, is really about 43mm, not the usual 50). A 60mm macro lens is clearly not a normal lens on a 1.6-crop body.</p> <p>If you're looking for a normal lens for a 1.6-crop body, I wouldn't be too concerned about whether the same lens would fit a full-frame body. If you do decide to go full-frame and you want a normal lens, whatever you pick for a 1.6-crop normal lens won't work as a normal lens on full-frame so you'll be buying a new lens anyway. (This is the same reason why, if I stick with 1.6-crop, I plan on getting the 17-55; if I were to upgrade to full-frame at a later date, a 17-x lens isn't much use to me as it's far wider than I want, so regardless of whether I keep my 17-40 or replace it with the 17-55, it would be sold if I go full-frame.)</p> <p>The topic of what fast normal lens to get for a 1.6-crop body has come up a number of times before. There's no perfect answer; each lens has its strengths and supporters, and each lens has its weaknesses and detractors. As for the list of possible lenses, Sigma also has a full-frame 28/1.8, I believe, which you might want to consider; I have no idea whether it's any good or how much it costs.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinke Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 no post-processing other than re-sizing for web: http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/78944088 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/78944073 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/78943984 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/78943983 http://www.pbase.com/vinke/image/78943972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck_rogers1 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I had issues with the sigma and took it back for the canon 35/2 which I love. However, I don't think its AF will be enough for your BMX work. In that case, I'd take the sigma if you're not unlucky enough to get a bad sigma. If you don't want to risk it, go for the canon 28/1.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 There are 3 Canon prime lenses that are so cheap, and so good for the price that every EOS user should consider getting one or more of them. I ended up buying all three: 1) The 28mm f/2.8 (which you've ruled out as too slow) 2) 35mm f/2.0 that several have already mentioned (my personal recommendation too) 3) 50mm f/1.8 (plastic mount, but great glass and costs next to nothing) The 50mm lens, of course will be a portrait lens on the APS sensor, but I've found it great for that purpose, good bokeh, and it seems to be durable. As I said, I personally recommend the 35mm f/2.0, and I have found it fast enough for night hand-held photography on my 20D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainer_t Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 This question is returning on a regular basis. May be you find some valuable stuff in ... http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00LQJE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernest_ferraro Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I'm far from an expert but my little 50/1.8 at about $70 on my 30d makes a pretty economical "normal" lens - great for no flash, low light situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pturton Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Normal = 35L and you'll never look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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