jason j Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 I am looking for a lens that allows me to take better photos of my son and daughter in school plays from 10 to 30 feet away in dim lighting. I have seen a Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6 G IF-ED VR for $250 and a Nikon 80-200mm f/2.8 D AF ED for $400. I have been told that each lens is two stops better than the Nikon AF nikkor 28-200mm 3.5-5.6 G ED. So here is my question: Which will work better at 10-30 feet in dim lighting, the Nikon 55-200mm f/4-5.6 G IF-ED VR for $250 and a Nikon 80-200mm f/2.8 D AF ED for $400? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelging Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 The 80-200 2.8 is a much better pick,the other lens might let you shoot a photo of a still object at a slower shutter speed, but people move,and too slow of shutter speed will kill sharpness in any photo where something is moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titospna Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 If you only need 10-30 feet, I suggest the 85mm AFD (1.8) for less than $400. The VR on the 55-200 will only get you so much light to play with and then you'll be wishing for the faster lens. Can you really get a 80-200 f/2.8 for $400? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfoster70 Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 where are you getting a 80-200mm f/2.8 for $400? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanjo_viagran Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 "Can you really get a 80-200 f/2.8 for $400?" NO... unless you get a beat up older push zoom...:/ I just bought the TOKINA 80-200mm AT-X pro 2.8 AF and paid more than $400. Don't know if I got lucky with a good copy but this Tokina is VERY sharp even wide open. highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted June 15, 2007 Share Posted June 15, 2007 You might want to check out this recent thread on lenese for shooting ballet. There are a lot of pretty good answers that may be applicable to this case: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00LUES For dim light performance, you want fast lenses with wide apretures. VR will not be very useful with moving subjects. The 80-200mm/f2.8 may be a good choice but I agree that if you are as close as 10 to 30 feet away, a 85mm/f1.8 or 50mm/f1.8 may be better choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I have a 55/200 VR that I got two weeks ago. It is a sharp lens, but the construction is not robust. The 2.8 80/200 are pro lenses that are more suitable for low light being 2.8, made much better, larger and heavier, and cost much more. The variable aperture of 4.0 at 55mm to 5.6 at 200 indicates it is not that suitable for low light. I posted some ballet pics and used an aperture of 2.5. I needed it. My choice of the 55/200 VR was for outside travel photography where speed does not matter, light weight does. An 80 1.4 would be perfect if you are within 30 feet. 80 1.8 second. Use ISO 400 to 800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_knight Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I asked to shoot a dress rehearsal of the musical "Chicago" at our local theater just for the fun of it to see if I could do it with my D50 and 50/1.8 prime, no flash, using a tri-pod, 1/20, 2.8. You need to look for the moment when the action comes to a stop to still get quality shots.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lofquist Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I would agree with Tito that the 85mm f/1.8 would be a good lens for this application. It's relatively light and maneuverable in tight situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 "I have been told that each lens is two stops better than the Nikon AF nikkor 28-200mm 3.5-5.6 G ED." - you were told wrong. from the two lenses: (55-200mm f/4-5.6 VR for Nikon 80-200mm f/2.8), only the second lens is better by 2 F stops. Generally, you cannot trade VR for 2 stops of light, except for static subjects. Further more, the 28-200 G lens has 3 ED, 3 Aspherical, and close focus correction, and is an excellent lens in hands of experienced photographer, but not fast enough for school plays in dim lighting, neither is the 55-200 VR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rene gm Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 If you can get the 80-200 2.8 for $400, I think it is a good choice. It is listed over 800$. The lens is very good in midrange, where you apparently need it, but quite soft at 200mm, unless you stop down to F8/11. The 2.8 will give you short shutter speeds in good light. It is very bulky however. The 55-200 is very good for non-action photography, in my oppinion better than the 80-200, due to VR, the lightweight build and the sharpness at F4 all over the range. It's also in a reasonable price range for an amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Among the various versions of the Nikon 80-200mm/f2.8 AF, two are AF-D. The earlier one has push/pull zoom and the later version has a tripod collar. The latter is still in production. This old thread has more details: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=000nBZ You probably can get the early one for $400 used since it has long been out of favor due to the lack of any tripod collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason j Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 Thanks everyone for all the information. Shun, the old thread was especially helpful. I have used my 50mm 1.8 to shoot school plays, but I like being able to change focal length without changing lenses. An acquaintance had the 80-200 2.8 for sale, but all except the most recent version are available on EBAY for about $400. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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