diego.elizalde Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 -----Infrared Sensitivity Test - Nikon D80 (18-135 mm lens)----- --Background-- I have been shooting Nikon film cameras (and some medium format TLRs) for the past 10 years, and I have always been amazed by infrared (IR) photography. When I made the switch to digital recently, I was really excited to finally get to explore IR photography in a convenient way (something I never did with film due to the cost and inconsistency of film-based IR photography). I went on a 4 hr road trip to shoot IR landscapes with my new D80. I had a great subject in mind (the PGE wind farm in the central Oregon high desert), and the day was great for shooting. I tried all kinds of exposures, framing, and subjects. I tried different ISO settings, different angles to the sun, different types of foliage, and different times of the day ? and all combinations thereof. The results were terrible. The D-80 poor IR radiation sensitivity means you have to modify exposure times, allowing more visible light to be absorbed, which diminishes any IR effect you may get. Let me elaborate on this; The D80?s low infrared sensitivity is by no means a defect, or a disadvantage. The placement of the hot mirror filter in between the lens and the CCD is a valid effort from Nikon to further ?clean up? captures made the way they design the camera to be used: visible light!! In this effort to clean up the image, their IR filtering technology apparently evolved since the D70, and this filter appears to work very efficiently on the D80, which causes big disappointment for those of us who want to finally be able to shoot infrared, taking advantage of digital?s instant feedback. Well, I came back home from my little trip with about 1.7 GB of RAW files, which were a great disappointment. The skies are darker than normal, and the clouds are a bit brighter than usual, but the foliage looks the same as just using a red filter (not an infrared one). It just looked like a B&W photo taken with a Red 29 filter on. So, I decided to do a one-on-one comparison between the D80, and my abandoned (not anymore) Nikon Coolpix 4500. --Test-- The way I ran this test is as follows: Tripod mounted camera ISO 100 Exposure was manual mode, 1 second @ F10 I used a Comcast Universal TV-type remote control as a source of IR light. No IR Filter was used on either camera. Just the naked lens. ---Nikon D80 (18-135 mm zoom lens) Results: The image was correctly exposed overall. You can barely see two washed-out, brighter dots on the front of the remote, which are the remote?s infrared lights used to communicate with the TV. These spots were visible only after zooming in, and were hard to find. ---Nikon Coolpix 4500 Results: The image had the same overall density of exposure as the one produced with the Nikon D80, with only one difference: The remote?s infrared lights were as bright as car headlights! The 4500 CCD must be dozens of times more sensitive to IR light than the D80! I immediately took the 4500 off the tripod, scotch-taped my Cokin 007 IR filter to the lens, and took a shot on Auto-Exposure mode out the window. The camera metered correctly (matrix mode), performed an accurate Auto-Focus operation, and I immediately got a great looking IR photograph. I honestly almost had a heart attack when I saw the results. My test confirms the D80?s low IR sensitivity, but it also gives hope, because you can find an old Coolpix series camera for less than what a Razor Cell Phone costs, and you can make that your designated IR camera, and fine tune it for that purpose (custom White Balance, etc), and keep your D80 for what its meant to photograph: Visible Light! I hope this test was informative to you all, and happy IR shooting. Diego E. Portland, Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janvanlaethem Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Thanks for the information, Diego. I have shot infrared black and white film for many years, but it is now quite difficult to get hold of and to find a lab that will process it. I would be interested in seeing some pictures you made with the Coolpix 4500. regards Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diego.elizalde Posted May 17, 2007 Author Share Posted May 17, 2007 LOL - Yes, sorry I couldnt post any examples yet, cause I am at work now (I hope my boss is not a member here!). I will post examples later on tonight, from home :) Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartyfisher Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Well Looks like I will have to dust off my old coolpix 5000 and run a test on it too!! Thanks for the info Diego! tell me about IR filters. I dont know much about them. But have been wanting to try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_cremona Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Hello Deigo, IR works against you on most of the newer cameras, manufactures are using chemicals on newer lenses to produce more vibrant colours - these chemicals are counteract with IR filters Regards, <a href="http://www.ianstravels.com"> Ian's Travels </a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diego.elizalde Posted May 18, 2007 Author Share Posted May 18, 2007 Tze, You should definitely give your 5000 a try. It may surprise you! As far as IR filters, I'd reccommend two of them: Cokin 007 (if you use the Cokin system), which sells at about $50, and the hoya R72. On this one, the price varies depending on filter size. Infrared filters are designed to block visible light. Some of them block more than others, but this makes exposure times longer. I use the cokin filter, and allows only enough visible light to make exposure times manageable. I shoot at ISO 100 with exposure settings of + - 1 second @ F 8. By blocking the visible light, the camera is able to make the exposure with infrared light. Ian - You are certainly right. These days, infrared light is not welcomed in equipment design. Thank goodness for old equipment! Here is an example I got from some tests I was running yesterday at the golf course by home.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikbetti Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Just to let you know, I shoot a fair amount of IR on my Nikon D100, and usually the results are great. I've found using my older MF 50mm f1.4 lens with a B&W IR filter and a tiffen yellow filter tends to work a bit better than my newer lenses. Also, while I usually shoot JPG, I find RAW much more forgiving. Also, I just tried holding my IR filter in front of my fiance's Panasonic Lumix LZ6, and the results were also fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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