kparratt Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 A Leica rangefinder with Visoflex system already mentioned here, is superb for macro work. I suggest you look into it. Shown here is my M3 with Visoflex and the renowned Hektor 135mm. I use it frequently I suspect there is more to the Leica M history than you have so far become aware of. Something for you to look forward to.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kparratt Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 And a Leica M mounted on the Leitz Reprovit 2A, one of the best copy setups ever built, again with superb macro capabilities.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Paul, what you intended as sarcasm is really the truth, and your picture proves it. An SLR (or turning an M into an SLR with the Viso-Rubo- Goldbergo-Flex) would have given you some ability to visualize and therefore control the relationship between your subject and... Distracting backgrounds. Even a point and shoot is a better device for close up photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Silvio's first photo proves the usual maxim... Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 The real question is, what would HCB use for Macro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Ocean Physics, while I agree with your definition, from a technical viewpoint, for educational purposes, I modify it to include a reference to the 35mm film frame height. My working definition, and the one I usually teach, is "A macro photograph is one that allows a 1 inch subject to fill the frame". Without this little addition, you have to take into consideration point and shoot cameras with 1/4 inch sensors, rangefinders and DSLRs, medium format, and view cameras. On an 11x14, 1:1 is a "headshot". I flesh it out with macro being the range from 1 inch to the point at which you need to think about using a microscope to control the relationship between subject, lens, and camera. p.s. hey gang, attacking the nickname is even worse than attacking the man. You've gone from ad hominem attacks to ad pseudonym attacks. ;) One can make exception if the name is deliberately provocative (such as the occasional person who signs onto a photography site as Ansel Adams or Henri Cartier-Bressan, or an annoying troll on dpReview who signs himself "furryberry", a slang term for a gonad) but in general, most people choose a nickname because it means something to them. It's an aspect of their personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumpton Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 What rubbish! Any good photographer would have no limitations whatsoever on his creative possibilities, in using the Viso II or III with 65 mm or other lenses and bellowsa II. And if you want mico, then Leica was the choice camera for many years (probably still is) for microscope(ic) photography. However, a Leica cannot prevent a macro photographer from producing rubbish. That is unquestionable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kparratt Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Set yourself up with this outfit, and welcome to the world of Macro with a Leica: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjords Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! <BR>summilux M 75 @ f1.4<center><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/ 132701148_a85bfe183d_o.jpg"></center></br>on a Leicaflex SL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Daisy flower head diameter: 16-25mm http://www.arkive.org/species/ARK/plants_and_algae/Bellis_perennis/more_info.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakley Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 <i>'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'<p>'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'<p>'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'<p></i>Even with a Rangefinder, you're still peering at the world through the looking glass, at least within the bounds of the focusing patch, so Humpty's rules still apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Mark U, The image Paul posted is a crop and his M8+90/4 Macro-Elmar-M+macro adapter set-up at its maximum magnification would go to 1/3X at best (http://www.imx.nl/photosite/leica/mseries/testm/MEM90/MacroElmar.html). The daisy image posted here was made at a magnification of about 1/5X: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00KegE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Whenever I see a photo posted to the forum monster-sized I wonder why. To make up for deficiencies? Really big does not equal good... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted April 8, 2007 Author Share Posted April 8, 2007 Well, there I was posting a cheery spring photo that took all of 30 seconds to take, download, crop and upload (and yes, I'm sure some of you can tell that's all it took). Some spotted the irony of tone and treated it in the spirit it was intended. As for others, oh well...I'm sure you're the life and soul of the party really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Pardon me if I wronged, Paul. Are you saying that any shot you post here should be treated in accordance with your intended tone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted April 8, 2007 Author Share Posted April 8, 2007 Vivek: not the slightest difficulty with your contributions (which are always helpful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_newell2 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Paul, I fear the only thing this thread proves beyond doubt is that things like irony are not easily communicated in this form...or at least, not in this forum. Nice pic, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 OK, Paul. John said it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvio_b Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Irony or not, his picture sucks big time regardless of the equipment he used or if he can print it 40"x60" without any quality loss. But hey, doesn't matter as long as LEICA was used. Regards, Silvio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakley Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Devastating commentary, especially coming from a prominent critic and world-renowned photographer like Silvio "B". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul hart Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 Can someone point Silvio B to the 'I can do better than that with a $20 P&S' forum, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg lockrey Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I just can't understand why someone would show their out of focus pictures and then brag about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisb1 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 An interesting debate. I know I am late into the discussion and as a newb probably not the greatest authority. I just wanted to add the virtues of using the Leica D-LUX 2 - an 8mp digicam for macro work. The one thing I do like about using the D-LUX 2 in closeup situations is that you can get in very close without bending in two at low heights and see in real time what you are about to capture. You can certainly blow images up to A3 and get good results (I have done so). Attached is one of my best results - I was staggered that I could actually see a reflection in the carapace of the insect. I'm not decrying other solutions, just that for individuals on a budget, or with a moderate interest in macro photography, it is a satisfactory solution, or starting point. LouisB<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasontang Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I like using Leica M for Macro photos. The best way to do macro work is through a M-visoflex adapter and a bellow, which are really cheap. Here is an example taken with a Leica MP and a 90mm elmarit-M lens wide open. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/452136281_6a820cf568_o.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasontang Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Try again. MP with 90 elmarit-M and visoflex II<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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