chris_alcock Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I have an Epson 2200 printer that prints fine with my I Mac computer. I just bought a new Dell notebook, and when I print from my Dell, the photos come out way too dark, almost as if it printed the photo twice on top of eachother. When I switch back to my Mac, no problem. I have contacted Dell support, Epson, my Graphics design guy, and no one can figure it out. I have a desktop from Dell that does the same thing. Any ideas? I need help! Thanks to all of those taking the time to respond! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Are you talking about different images on each computer, or the same file on CD swapped back and forth, or ? Is your color management workflow set up the same on both machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_alcock Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 color management is the same, and it's the same images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_alcock Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 same images, same workflow settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielleetaylor Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It has been a while since my last printer, but...I seem to recall setting my PC's Epson to a gamma of 1.8 to get a match with an Epson on a Mac at work, even though the image looked the same on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry schmetter Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 You've got color management problems. One likely cause of "doubly dark" prints is having both your printer driver and photoshop (or other application) apply the same paper ICC profile. Make sure you disable color management in your printer driver and enable it with the correct printer profile in your application. Also try softproofing if possible so you can get a good idea of how an image will print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_clark Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Also missing color management could cause muc the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_champoux Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Yep, I have/had the same problem. I found the answer in a thread buried deep here in photo.net. While I don't know what the cause is, this is a fix that seems to work: When printing, click on your usual settings in the dialog boxes. In addition, in the 2200 Properties dialog box, on the Main tab (versus Layout or Maintenance Tabs), click on Ink Configuration (Lower left). Adjust the Color Density to get something that you like. It's currently set at 0. I seem to recall from that thread that others found -12 to -14% worked. For me and my printer, -14 is good. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_clark Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Also make sure you're using the PC profiles, not the Mac profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwg Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 What is your printing process? List each step on each system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_p6 Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 Dell monitors are not color accurate. Sorry. That may be an issue with your screen-to-print match. Also set your gamma to 2.2, not 1.8. There must be something wrong with your workflow settings (different color space, embedded profiles?). Check the settings again. Take a look at some articles on www.shootsmarter.com Those guys helped me to resolve lots of problems workflow related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 "Dell monitors are not color accurate" Leaving aside for the moment that this poster has a notebook and not a monitor I have a comment here. Let me start by saying that I understand that Dell monitors are not going to be as precise, or to display as wide a gamut as monitors costing much more. I'm aware also that a Dell LCD will probably not allow you to adjust contrast as part of a calibration process and that certainly with my Monaco XR the process for establishing brightness is less than fully scientific. But, with my Monaco XR kit I got a Colour Management check-up kit bundled , and this allows me to see how my calibrated on -screen images look against Kodak test prints. And frankly they look pretty decent to me in daylight. Might just be lucky of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denbigh__france_ Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Just googled to this thread, and bingo, exactly the right answer. I have a 2100 (Euro label on 2200) and have found -20% has solved this painful problem with my printer. Re: the comment about poor screens as a possible answer to this problem, I think it unlikely. A poor screen, which is set up ok to show appls like Word and Excel, have the brightness and contrast set in the right ballpark. The colour may be well off, but the density and gamma of the image will be sort-of right-ish... I use two screens, one for the image I am working on, and the other for driving the interface (this is PS-CS2 I am talking about). One is highly corrected, and the other is out of the box. The images are totally different in color rendering, but the light and shade are not that far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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