graham_davis1 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I just bought 10 rolls of film from the dollar store, at $1 per roll(on abudget, ok?). I intend to develop it in b+w chemistry and print it under heavylight. Do you know what this stuff is? Rediculously large picture coming up... <p><img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~grahamadavis/dollarfilm.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sattler123 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It's made in Germany, so my guess would be Agfa. Should be a good film - you know it's color though, right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_davis1 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Woah, I just peeled off the stickers on the actual cassettes of film. Each cassette is from a different manufacturer, ranging from fuji to some chinese-character brand. I guess they recycled the old cassettes for their own film. The plot thickens.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian green Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 the box design is heavily influenced by original Agfa Ultra package<br> you should try to process it as normal color negative in C41<br> you can be pleased with results<br> or not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_davis1 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 I will mos def process a couple of rolls c-41, but I have been looking for some cheap film to play around with, and develop in b+w chemicals. A dollar a roll may be as cheap as it gets. I looked at the Agfa packaging, and it does look awful similar. Perhaps "IMAGES" brand is trying to be up-scale and identify with Agfa, or perhaps this does contain Agfa stock. Any way to see for sure if it is Ag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_nash1 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 You can see it is 24+3 exposures, and AGFA has always had the 27exp rolls. Can you tell which dollar store by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian green Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 here's a description of Agfa color negrative films ripped from Vuescan help file:<br><br> Vendor - Brand Name - Film Type - Label on Film / Stripe1Color / Stripe2Color<br> --------------------------------------------------------------------<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - OPTIMA 125 - AGFA OPTIMA 125/GREEN SQUARE/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - OPTIMA 200 - AGFA OPTIMA 200/GRN SQUARES/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - PORTRAIT 160 - AGFA PORTRAIT 160/GREEN SQUARE/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - Ultra 50 - AGFA ULTRA 50 Triangles/NONE/GREEN<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - XRG 100 - AGFA XRG 100/GREEN SQUARE/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - XRG/XRS 200 - AFGA XRG 200 Pairs of Squares/GREEN/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - XRG/XRS 400 - AFGA XRG/XRS 400 Pairs of Squares/GREEN/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - XRS 1000 Gen 2 - AGFA XRS 100 Triplets of Squares/GREEN/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - XRS 400 Gen 1 - XRS 400 Gen 1/MAG SQRS/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - XRS 400 Gen 2 - XRS 400 Gen 2/MAG SQRS/NONE<br> AGFA - AGFACOLOR - XRS/XRC 100 - AGFA XRS 100/GREEN SQ/NONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I would guess that the film was loaded into previously used cartridges. That would explain different markings under each label. I donlt think you will have much fun developing this film in B&W chemicals and then printing through the heavy orange mask. There is plenty of good regular B&W film still available and it would be a lot easier to print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_s10 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 More a question. Can colour neg (C-41) be developed in B&W chems? I've run a roll of Minocolour through ID11 out of curiosity a while ago and got solid emulsion and absolutely nothing image wise. So i'm wondering if this can be done and the results to be expected, rough times for dev etc? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_davis1 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 The dollar store where I bought this is just a local, non chain dollar store. I can ask the manager where he got his stock. Maybe I could start selling this stuff on ebay! ;-) Yes, you can develop color neg film in b+w chemicals, what I do is just look at the iso and go from there, pretending the film was b+w. That is, for iso 400, about 9 minutes in ilfosol, for 100 about 6. I will definetly experiment. There is an orange mast left over, but its not that hard to print. "C'mon, ya pansies!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Seems like, for a buck, you could sacrifice a roll and see what's imprinted on the film margins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_davis1 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Uh... I went to develop a few rolls... Drove to the lab... I got the negs back from the lab... I waited and talked with them about the potential of my find... The negs came out... I rushed to them... And looked at them... ...and they have absolutely NOTHING in the margins. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_davis1 Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 the above sequence of events is a little messed up order wise, and not as dramatic as I had initally anticipated, but anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 A buck a roll for that stuff when you plan to develop in B&W chemicals to me sounds expensive. I buy expired 100' bulk rolls of B&W films (good brands) and it's all been perfect (even as old as 1978). I get them for $3.00 to $15.00 a bulk roll. Do the math. That's 18 rolls for that price plus a small bit for the canisters and $8.00 one time investment in a used bulk film loader. I'm getting much better film at much cheaper price per roll, and it's real B&W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence_spross1 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 It an inexpensive way to start and practice doing C41 yourself, though. For B&W locate cheap B&W film and get better results. Interesting --- no markings at all on edges? How did the photos come out? I would like to start a data base of identifying film by the color of the undeveloped film. Pull another 1/2" out of the cassete and note the color of the emulsion (the leader previously exposed for a long time will change and not be as reliable indication.) compare that to other films. The exact die shape of the sprocket holes varies by manufacture also. There seem to be slight differences on the radius of the corners of the holes. My guess is that Agfa had some off spec runs and they were sold to the lowest bidder either cut or uncut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene_e._mccluney Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 If a converter purchased master rolls not yet cut and perforated into 35mm, then the edge numbers would not have been printed. It would be up to the converter who packages the film to expose the frame numbers, etc. A lot of cheap color C-41 film is Ferrania. I side with the previous posts regarding just purchasing b/w film in bulk rolls, either bargain deals or short dated. Real b/w film makes the best b/w prints, or scans. McCluney Photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham_davis1 Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Does anyone want a roll to play with? Email me at graham a davis (at) earthlink dot net. <--my anti webcrawler obfuscation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_s10 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'm curious as to why I didn't get a thing from the Minocolor roll I developed in ID11 (11 min minocolor 400 at 20 degrees C) after reading that B&W chems could be used. Do you dev precisely as for B&W with the same temp register 20-24degrees C? or at the C-41 temp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_dold Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Mike, I've developed some C41 in B\W and done pretty much what you are describing. I got results, so maybe there was some other problem with your film ? 20 centigrade and normal fixing. My tests have come out quite dark, so maybe I'm overdeveloping the films. If I carry on doing it, I think I'll try clip tests in something stupidly cheap like Jessop's Econodev or Caffenol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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