mike w Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I'm sure this has been discussed before but I cant find it if it has. I would like to upgrade to some faster lenses for nature photography, birds and the like I'm not a pro but I am serous about my pictures. I'm looking to get a 300 2.8 but first I'd like to here some opinions on these two. Also using them with 1.4 and 2x teleconverters Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 EX DG APO IF HSM NIKON 300mm 2.8 D lens, AF-S I'm also considering a 400 2.8 in the future. with the teleconverters as well. My thinking is 2.8 with the tele's will be more versatile than a 500 or 600 f4. Thanks for your help with my ramblings Mike oh yea I use a D-100 for now will upgrade that later too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark newcombe www.mcnphoto Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 OK I have been raving about the 120-300 for a while so here is my take on it, I'm a sports photographer not a bird guy so my take is from another angle but this may help. This is one of only two Sigmas I currently own the other is a 10-20. Pros: 1/ Build is excellent 2/ HSM is really quick on D2H & X and pretty good on the D200. 3/ Image quality is first rate 4/ Team it with the Sigma APO 1.4 and it works really well, haven't tried it with any other convertors or the 2x. 5/ You can hand hold but not for too long, I've been pretty sick so I only use it with a mono now until I get my stregth back. 6/ Sharp at 2.8 but really nice from f4 7/ Price, I think it goes for around $2200us I paid nearly $4000AU for mine. You won't find a cheaper 300 2.8. 8/ IT'S A 300 2.8 THAT YOU CAN ZOOM there is nothing really in this class to compare against, baring maybe the 200-400 nikor(no comparison right). 9/ bokeh is nice and silky Cons 1/ make sure you get the DG version or you'll be handing over another $150 or so to get the ts41 foot as the older one is hopeless. (too close) 2/ No rear drop in filter which means mega bucks buying 105mm filters I think the Sigma UV starts at about $150 and the big brands are even more. 3/ I don't think it's a true 300 more like 285 but thats ok with me given I can zoom, I'll live with it. 4/ Some samples seem to have front or back focus issues, mine doesn't and the guy from Sigma said it's just a recalibration if it did. 5/ It's a big lens and you need to have a good technique to get the best out of it. 6/ The hood is well made and fits nicely but could be a bit longer, although i have not had any flare issues. 7/ Stick VR into this and it would be perfect. I use this lens for pretty much all sports including Soccer, Hockey, MX and the like and for sports it's pretty darn good. I don't shot wildlife or birds but I guess it'd be just as good, reading here though most bird guys tend to go for the big primes. I don't often use my 70-200 nikor any more, even though I'd never part with it, as the 120-300 covers my distance requirements better and I tend to hang 28-70 off my second body. I do however use the 70-200 more for hockey as we don't have glass down here and sometimes you need to duck pretty quickly, the 120-300 is too heavey for that also when I need VR. Overall image quality is on par with the 70-200 and just slightly behind the 300 prime but not enough to worry my customers it definately produces pro images and I won't be parting with this lens anytime soon. Unless a VR or Nikor version comes out thats better. Hope that helps email me if you need any other specifics. Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_duffy1 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I have used this lens to shoot bald eagles and some sports (mainly soccer, baseball and hockey) for about 2 years now, first using an F100 and D100 and now using a D200 only. I made the mistake of getting a 2x teleconverter. Don't! The 2x hunts like you wouldn't believe. I've heard the 1.4 is pretty good. As Mark has pointed out it is a really good lens. It is the only non-Nikon lens I own. Overall I love it but if I had $5K I'd get the 200-400 in a heartbeat. My ONLY complaint about it is that you have to turn in the opposite direction of Nikon lenses in order to zoom. It takes a while to get used to. This can be problematic with sports but with bald eagles I'm always shooting at 300mm anyway so it doesn't matter. Bottom line: I love this lens and don't regret for a second buying it. I don't have any eagle or sports shots online right now but feel free to e-mail me if you'd like a sample. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike w Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 Thanks Guys, I'm seriously considering the Sigma and your input has me leaning in that direction even more than before. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark newcombe www.mcnphoto Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 See if you can rent one from somewhere, I think once you try it you'll like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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