scott___1 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 good day, i've got a shoot pretty soon which is going to require me to hand hold a 6x7 camera in pretty low light. As such, I'm trying to determine what's the best route film-wise to get the best combination of speed and quality. Has anyone compared the following... Provia 400 Provia 100 pushed +2 to 320 Astia 100 pushed +2 to 320 Kodak 200 something pushed +1 to 400 any inputs wuold be much appreciated. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_earussi1 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 If possible, I would try to switch to neg. film, as the grain is much less for 400+ speed in neg. than for a given equivalent in slide. I would use Fuji 400 or even 800, especially since you're using Pentax 67 lenses which have to be stopped down to at least f8 for anything but the center to be sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I'd be curious to see the Astia+2 result. But truth is I'd probably go to a neg film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott___1 Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 hey fellas, the plan is to shoot with a Mamiya 7, not a P67. The new Provia 400 has an RMS of 13...http://www.fujifilm.com/products/professional_films/provia_400f.html you think neg films are less grainy than that? i haven't shot neg film in a while, but was under the impression that the equivalent RMS (i know there's no direct measurment) was in the high teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I have found Provia 400F to be a pretty good film. If you are shooting 6x7 grain is not going to be a problem and you will have a normal contrast ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Scott, <p> Provia 100F pushed 2 stops is pretty awful. The slide looks bleached and a lot of dynamic range is lost. Last month I forgot to include polarising filter when using a handheld meter and push-processed the Provia 100F 2 stops. <a href=http://www.pbase.com/s9810588/image/71359295>Here's the result</a>. Pretty awful, no? <p> Provia 400F is the best ISO400 slide film I ever tried; not many but I stopped trying out other films after I tried Provia 400F. Forget Kodak Ektachrome 400 - the grain is comparable to Provia 400F pushed 2 stops! <p> Kris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulh Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Provia 400 is a very nice film, especially in 6x6 and larger. Good colours and sharpness and grain is not an issue. This has become my winter standard slide film. A 400 speed colour neg like Pro400H is a good option if you're not committed to shooting slides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul.droluk Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 This won't be of help, but while I was at Photokina I saw some LARGE prints (20"x60" ish) from the upcoming Provia 400X. They were amazing to say the least. Highly saturated and with relatively unnoticable grain... much, much better than 400F. Unfortunately I just checked B&H, and it appears as though 400X is not available yet. I can't wait to start shooting with it, especially for larger formats. 400X (RMS 11) will replace 400F (RMS 13) sometime in the spring of 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_lumsden Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Hi Has anyone had success witk Kodak E200. I ran a roll through my 124G and the colurs seemed a bit more muted than Provia 100, or even Provia 100 pushed. I like the fact that you can push E200 up to iso 800 though and will try another 2 rolls. regards stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff.grant Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Provia 100 pushes two stops easily. I used to routinely push 2 stops for my work for the Zoo Friends magazine in Sydney. These shots were published at up to A4 with good colour and contrast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidroossien Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I like Astia pushed 2 stops to 320. I think it requires more careful exposure than when shot at 100, but it works pretty well in low/medium contrast scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott___1 Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Paul, thanks for the heads-up on the Provia 400X. it is not yet available in the states, but it is readily available in Japan. Dirk Rosler has it in stock and is shipping me some in time for my trip. ISO 400 (though i'm told it's closer to 320) with a granularity of 11... sounds promising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_willson Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Hi Scott, I have just shot my first 5 120 rolls with the new Fuji Provia 400X. (I live in Japan, and although the 35mm rolls were on sale a few months ago it was only a couple of weeks ago that the 120 rolls appeared.)They have been sent off for processing and I'll report back with the results in the next few days. Chris www.travel67.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_willson Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 400X film came back from the lab and I was pleased with the results. Not a scientific test but seems better than 400F or +2 pushing of 100F in terms of grain. Chris www.travel67.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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