seb v. Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Elmar 50mm 2.8<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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seb v. Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Adjusted in photoshop, previous one looked darker than I thought.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoebox Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Nice pictures. What film did you use? I like the color a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 "Besotted" means drunk. Why is this thread entitled besotted. Are you saying that these children are drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb v. Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 Besoffen, I think, means drunk. As dumkopf means stupid. I write in English, where besotted can also mean 'crazy about' or 'Love'Maybe I should have named it, 'pictures of a girl'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny massey Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Eliot, are you sure you aren't drunk? you pedant you . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Besotted means very drunk. It does not mean in love. Look it up in the dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Here is a list of synonyms for besotted: Synonyms: blind drunk, blotto, crocked, cockeyed, fuddled, loaded, pie-eyed, pissed, pixilated, plastered, potty, slopped, sloshed, smashed, soaked, soused, sozzled, squiffy, stiff, tiddly, tiddley, tight, tipsy, wet It means very drunk. Of course it may be pedantic to point out that the children in these pictures are not besotted, drunk, blotto, loaded, tipsy, or any of those other things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoebox Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Whatever, I care less about the meaning of besotted. I care more about the pictures and seb's pics are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_clark Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Well Elliot, I don't know where you got that list from, but here's a selective list from the New Oxford Thesaurus: Infatuated with, smitten with, in love with, head over heels in love with, hopelessly in love with, obsessed with, passionate about, consumed with desire for, etc. ad nauseam. The three definitions given in the Collins dictionary are: 1. stupified with drink; intoxicated. 2. infatuated; doting. 3.foolish; muddled. Obviously the root meaning comes from sot, a drunkard, but... by extention (you know how languages bloom over the years) it adds nuances, inflexions and then, dare I say it, new meanings. Perhaps being in love is a sort of drunkenness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Actually, Eliot, throughout litiature, the word is used to express enchantment or love, but its use arises from the definition you cite. In other the quite valid expression " He was besotted with love for her. Meaning literally he was drunk with love for her..idiomatically he was head over heels, friggen wacked out with love for her... Get it? Discussion of photos resume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Several sources list only drunk. If you take the other meanings you list (infatuated; doting; foolish; muddled) I still don't understand how these pictures relate to that meaning. Are they supposed to show that the children are infatuated or foolish? OK, say he meant the photographer is infactuated with the children, that's pretty oblique and is not communicated by these pictures to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Eliot, You are as mad as Max. These are really nice pictures - totally in keeping with the word besotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_senzaorbi Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Cute kid. I won't comment on the photography since as yet I haven't had the inclination to scan up any of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Sorry, Stuart, they look like ordinary snaps to me. They certainly do not convey any mystical sense that the photographer is maddly in love with them, any more than any person taking pictures of his or her kids. Just ordinary kid pictures. Cute kid though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael s. Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I like these very much, Seb. As between the darker #1 and the lighter #4, I cannot say one is better. They're just different. And they're both good.<p> Eliot, I'm sure you'll agree that we're facing a far more daunting vocabulary issue over on <a href=http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00FJfF&tag=200602170502>this thread</a>. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Michael. I wasn't even aware that the word in question could be made into a verb. I thought it was a noun. Live and learn. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Eliot whatever your dictionaries tell you, using the word "besotted" to mean infatuated is a usage that I and apparently seb and other members of the forum are familiar with. In fact, as soon as I saw the title of the thread I expected it would be someone's pictures of his daughter. Had I seen this title 40 years ago I would have thought the same thing; my Shakespeare professor used it to describe Lear's feelings toward one of his daughters (name?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 stop digging your own hole Eliot. er.. actually its too late. where im based (England) "besotted" means exactly what seb intended. better get a real dictionary, or go back to school. Perhaps in the UK - theres lots of good ones here =0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 like the 2nd image the best seb. pretty girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 "stop digging your own hole Eliot." Here's one. Do you know the meaning of "piling on"? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 " I won't comment on the photography since as yet I haven't had the inclination to scan up any of mine." C'mon, don't be shy, Tony. You're a photography teacher, after all, so you should have a bit more on the ball than most of us here...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 That kid looks drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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