grant_l Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 One more... <br> <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=482701&size=m d"> </center> <br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_darnton1 Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Charles, perhaps a more concrete definition of street photography is needed? Is it really just any photography that happens on the street? Both of the photos you mention would be, for me, straight journalism, which is, for me, something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_darnton1 Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 And in the same vein: <p> http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0205/nutsandbolts.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_travis Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 As I read all these responses, I'm convinced that you're all goal orientated. You all seem to want the journey to end before it's really began. Is that the only reason to photograph? Doesn't the Journey also have validity? One thing struck me about Ian's portfolio, they're all thirty year old photo's. Doesn't he have anything recent? It's as if Ian reached his destination thirty years ago and stopped. HCB reached his destination twenty years ago, put the camera away, and turned to sketching. I hope the journey never ends for me. So Grant, keep on truck'ng Man! And I will look at your photos as the Journey they respresent. Right now, I see your in "Legsville." Hey Man, I can dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 <i> I see shots taken looking down at feet and lower legs... </i><p> Manuel Alvarez Bravo:<p> <a href="http://www.geh.org/taschen/m197806370014.jpg"> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Whoops.<p> Manuel Alvarez Bravo:<p> <img src="http://www.geh.org/taschen/m197806370014.jpg"> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto_watson_garc_a Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 for me street photography is just like any other kind of photography, it has to do with feelings, but out in the street, and here is Don Manuel, but he´s not out in the street, but in the presentation of his book "Mucho Sol", in Bellas Artes in Mexico City, 1989 I guess. <p> <img src="http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display? photo_id=397757&size=md"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 I agree with r. He makes a good point there. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 Often, I feel too self-conscious to phtograph people I don't know from the front. I'll use a 28mm, though, and work them in on one side, so it doesn't look like the camera is pointing at them. I actually have gotten two or three decent shots from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah Posted May 12, 2002 Share Posted May 12, 2002 One or more people have raised the question; is a photograph considered "street photography" merely because it was shot in a street. Of course not. Maybe the very term "street photography" is flawed, but I'm sure it's here to stay. <p> If I had to define it, I'd say street photography is an unposed way of working. It often, but certainly not always, takes place in public areas such as sidewalks, cafes, metros, etc. Glenn mentioned the "journey" of photography. That was a great point. For me, street photography involves a different journey than straight journalism or documentary work. <p> When I work on a documentary project, there is a great amount of work and research done before I shoot the first frame. If I have a story idea, I try to learn as much about it as possible. I then make contacts and begin the process of gaining access to the people involved in the story. I get to know my subjects and most likely, work with them for some time. <p> Often the street photographer's technique is to simply wander around an area with no specific goals in mind. That does not, however,mean that he or she is only interested in capturing moments without interacting with the subject in some real way. When I'm doing what I consider street photography, I'll often see a situation and work it for a while, waiting for nice light or a nice moment. Street photography can be intimate. It doesn't have to be the kind of blurry, frenetic, randomly-framed work that is often classified as street photography these days. Good street photography can be extremely difficult. Getting over your self-consciousness is probably the biggest hurdle for most people. Once you do that, you can move beyond the quick grab shots. <p> I also agree with François, I wouldn't consider Grant's work to be street photography. I find this work to be more about the process than content. Of course that isn't why I don't like the body of work. I'm drawn to work that straddles the line between interpretive art and documentary photography. The Manuel Alvarez Bravo photograph is a great example. It certainly has mystery, which only adds another layer of interest. <p> Grant, your portraits are very telling. They are honest and quite beautiful. Again, I agree with Glenn that you shouldn't let critiques of your work stop you. Learn from the critiques if you want, or ignore them. You have to do work that you care about and that lets you express yourself in your own way. <p> One other point. Something I learned in school and from countless editors, is to ONLY show your best work. Grant, I bet if you went through your work and picked out 5-10 images, it would be a much stronger body of work. If you have trouble editing your own work, get help from people you trust and whose work you admire. Putting someting on the web is showing it to the world. I don't know about you, but I only want the world to see my best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto_watson_garc_a Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 A lot I to learn from you this morning Noah, hope you could see my street photography. <p> Found your words very apropiate and apreciative, thank´s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_Tardio Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 I found this thread after looking at the current photo net "Photo of the Week" photographers work. <p> I think Paulo's stuff is a great example of street/documentary/photojournalism style. Little if any black & white, but wonderful nevertheless. <p> Go <a href="http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder? folder_id=184069">Here</a> to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kristian dowling Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 Firstly, I thin k that Glenn tarvisis one of the best street photographers we have on this forum, so his advice and pictures are always first rate. Secondly I believe that good street photography comes in two forms. <p> Firstly, you need to be able to get the shot exactly how you want in naturally, without interuption. HCB and Eugene Smith did this extremly well. <p> Secondly, you need to be able to build repore with subjects you wish to photograph for portraits. Mary Ellen Mark and Steve Mc Curry come to mind. <p> Anything in between, including some hip shooting is neither here or there. I can usually spot these sorts of pictures a mile away because they are not interesting and usually come from my camera!!! I need a lot of practise myself. Sowmthing I am working on, when I find time to get off the net and take some pics. <p> good luck and great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant2 Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 nobody 'needs' to do anything..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_su Posted May 13, 2002 Share Posted May 13, 2002 ultimately i think the answer to the question "what's a good streetphoto" is the same as the answer to the question "what is a goodphotograph". <p> people will give you different answers to this question, depending onwhat they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lux Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 WHo are you shooting for? For yourself or for others? Who gives a rat's ass what others think if what you think is right for you esthetically? <p> How do you convey your moods and feelings via pictures and please everyone at the same time? IMPOSSIBLE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 "Who gives a rat's ass what others think if what you think is right for you esthetically? " <p> Well, if you don't care whether what you do is any good, then obviously that's a coherent attitude. If you're trying to do good photography, then what other people think is important. Obviously we all have our abilities and interests, but there is such a thing as good and bad in photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_travis Posted May 14, 2002 Share Posted May 14, 2002 "Those who are swayed by the diluting passions, are bound to the duality of opposites, and chained to comparison and criticism forever." Release your mind from bondage, and let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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