mike dixon Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Of course the kind of camera used doesn't really indicate the quality of the photography, but here's one photographer who has switched to using Leicas in the past year or so. I've admired his work for several years and thought he deserved a wider audience. <p> Kenn Lichtenwalter produces some <i>outstanding</i> images. I guess "travel portraiture" and "b&w erotica" are the labels I'd use to describe his work. His site can be a bit slow at times, but it's worth the wait. <p> <a HREF="http://www.lichtenwalter.net/">http://www.lichtenwalter.net/</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted March 13, 2002 Author Share Posted March 13, 2002 Of course, just after I post this, his server seems to be taking a nap. Please try again later if it's not responding. <p> And for those interested: I'm fairly sure his main tools are an R6.2 and HP5+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_doyle2 Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Mike, <p> Worthy link, works fine no waiting here. His nudes are pretty damned charged I must say but I prefer his portraits, outstanding for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Is this a pisstake? Cunt on the railway tracks, or on the docks? Mike, I'm not a great fan of shots of young women for their own sake anyway, it usually seems a pretty easy sell to me (like a gorilla taking pictures of bananas), but your stuff is a lot better than this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Mike - I've been a fan of Kenn's stuff since I discovered it last year, and finding that it may be shot with Leica is a pleasant surprise. Sorry Rob, but I've got to take you to task a bit. I like your stuff, though documentary is not my bag, and in fact shoot mostly nudes, some of which are a little 'hardedged'. Though documentary may not be my cup of tea I would never call someones work crap an such just because I have a different style. One of the reasons I seldom post images on this forum (though those that email me can be directed to my website). Opinion is one thing, but I think your comments are too harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesrani Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Bob, you may be right about the harshness, but don't you think this kind of thing is so overplayed? Frankly I think it's horrid exploitative photography. I see no difference between this and porn - getting a young woman to spread her legs for the camera. As you know, I like your pictures - but what I like about them is their humanity and affection for their subjects (and playfulness), which is totally lacking here. Nudes as such don't disturb me, just nasty exploitative voyeuristic pictures of young women posing as something better than what they are. They wouldn't disturb me if they were in "Crotch Shots" magazine or whatever - at least that would be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcg Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Pretty standard porn. Yawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summicron Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 *back stretch* *yawn* *scratching crotch*, yep. nice black and white shots of women but er, I've seen more artisitc use of nudes. they kinda lack that creative form and style. I kinda agree with Rob, but a not as harsh. Those Chec girls are quite pretty though..*wolf whistle* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff voorhees Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Whether you like or dislike the content, HP5+ is nice film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summicron Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Lindsey. Brooklyn, New York shot has creative form and art direction. The rest are erm, lack the art form. Thats JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwildi Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 I'm an admirerer of Jeanloup Sieff's work. So this one strikes me. I love it a lot. Thanks for sharing. It's defenitely in my bookmarks. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted March 13, 2002 Author Share Posted March 13, 2002 Interesting that most of the comments so far are directed only at the erotic work when half the site is portraiture.<P> What I like about his work is the strong graphic qualities, the directness, and the expression of a personal style. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but there are a few points I'd like to address.<P> <i>Nudes as such don't disturb me, just nasty exploitative voyeuristic pictures of young women posing as something better than what they are. They wouldn't disturb me if they were in "Crotch Shots" magazine or whatever - at least that would be honest.</i><p> Actually, his work would never sell to "Crotch Shots" or "standard porn" sources. I've had conversations with guys who shoot and sell standard porn--most markets specifically do <i>not</i> want high-quality photography. For better or worse, the "fine art" market is where his work fits best. In that context, I think it's a refreshing counterpoint to a lot of work that treats the female body as just another pretty landscape. While women may not like being viewed as nothing more than sex objects, I know many women who are well aware of and comfortable with their sexual nature and who know how to express and exploit what power that gives them. Those are the women I see in Lichtenwalter's photos, not helpless victims of exploitation.<P> (And Bob T., I'd be interested in seeing your work if you'd email me your site URL.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_wills Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Yeah, I'm a admirer of Sieff also. The nudes are a bit on the wild side, but I guess I won't complain too much. I do like his use of the wide angle and the overall look of his B&W prints. I can't quite figure ot what focal lengh his wideangle is. Somewhere between a 28 and a 21mm I guess. What do you guys think? Thanks for the link to Kenn , Mike, and keep up the good work yourself. I love your photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted March 13, 2002 Author Share Posted March 13, 2002 Thanks, Ronald! I know he uses a 28mm; not sure what other focal lengths he might be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djphoto Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Much of Sieff's work shown in photo magazines over the years has been identified as photographed with a Leica and 21mm lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay bee Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 I like the NYC stuff particularly. The use of space above the people is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcg Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Okay, I went back & revisited the site. The portraits are superlative. And re- viewing the nudes, I change my earlier opinion. Not my cup of tea, but in their own methodical way, even these work on the level of extremely strong portraiture. Seeing the portraits first would alter anyone's impressions of the crotch shots that follow. Lichtenwalter is clearly extremely good at what he does, & there's a definite vision at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Striking stuff and the the shots have very strong visual impact. <p> The women are unusually "graphic" for arty shots. But I think on balance it works very well. A very strong draught of erotica, but none the worse for that. But I wouldn't want some on my wall, but I agree with Mike's description - I do not see any "victims" here. Mind you if he did the same with male nudes -- would we feel the same? Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_jones4 Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 For, I think the first time, I thoroughly and whole heartedly agree with Rob Appleby. That one on the tracks is hysterical... here she is: everyone on board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph_barker Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Mike - good thought to share the link to Kenn's work here. Of course, Kenn is not a <i>real</i> Leica photographer, because he shoots an R. ;-) (Just joking, R users.) <p> I agree that Kenn's work, both his portraits and his nudes, is strong, yet connected and sensitive stuff. I can't see any sort of connection between this work and newsstand porn mags, either. Tastes vary, but I'm always surprised at how emphatic some of the emotional reactions are - even moreso when those reactions are from within the photographic community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolo Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 This guy gets a more positive reception around here than William Gedney. Go figure. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_doyle2 Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 Robert, <p> No shit. Peter Hughes (yawn) especially slagged Gedney's work. <p> And Mike your thoughts on Kenn's work were my impressions as well, he's very graphic and I like his style, and the woman do have a powerful sexuality and are not afraid of it, nor victims because of it (like much of the porn crap). But as stated eariler I do prefer the non nude stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl5 Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 what did you do? go to thailand and hire a prostitute to pose nude for him? that's certainly the impression he gives. <p> it's a cheap sell out to push off porn in the guise of an art photograph. the photos in my opinion would be better if they did not reveal everything and left some things to the imagination, focusing on the beauty of the female form, rather than her vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl5 Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 sorry, i meant to type, "what did he do?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted March 13, 2002 Author Share Posted March 13, 2002 <i>what did [he] do? go to thailand and hire a prostitute to pose nude for him?</i><P> Maybe he just showed her the Leica logo on his camera, and she was so impressed she got nekkid for free. ; ) And last time a checked, the vagina was part of the female form . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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