robert_haller Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I opened this thread to hear some experienced macro-elmar4 (new) owners/users to show and tell us about their time and pictures with this special lens. No competion to Andy�s thread from about an hour ago - rather complementary a more technical & picture-samle discussion - his Nepal pic is outstanding !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnny massey Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 My thoughts so far are that this is a great little lens and a pleasure to use, lower-case b-u-t, it's strangely easy to forget to remove the stowed hood before you try to twist it onto the camera body and I'm not sure that nearly 600UKP to be able to focus down to .5m instead of .77m represents 'value for money' - infact it's bloody ridiculous. Johnny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny massey Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Oh, and it says here - 'Due to image field loss, for close-up shots at 0.5m the actually recorded image is approx. 20% smaller than indicated by the inner edges of the 90mm bright-line frame.' I ordered a chrome one, a black one arrived, but it should actually come with a LEMON finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_haller Posted January 3, 2006 Author Share Posted January 3, 2006 John - I am concerned about the sheer tele-character of it... Seems to produce real honest and true pictures - they dont look synthetic at all... soft bokeh and a nice classic look... Thanks for posting so far and the pics make me feel more comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny massey Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Glad to be of service Robert, I'm growing to think of the lens itself as an honest little workhorse. Whether I'll get any real use from the CF device remains to be seen. One thing that occurs to me is that people who shoot a lot of portraits might not find it as 'complimentary' as the old version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowingsky Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Just a question I have from the other thread: the old 90/4 is safe to use on the M6, right? Anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowingsky Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I mean, "safe to collapse on the M6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_lehrer Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Peter-- Yes you can use it on the M6, and store it collapsed. It will never touch the white patch on the shutter curtain. WTF did you get the idea that it would not work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_chang_sang Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It was from me Jerry :) <p> I was told not to collapse the 90mm f4 (the old original one from the 50's/60's) on the M6 because it would damage the metering on the camera. <p> Now though, I obviously know better :) <p> Cheers<br> Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Hmm, I wonder if that is even a problem with the M5 and CL. The base section looks thick, and the moving section looks short, thus limiting its rearward extention. I wonder if they limited the collapse to the point where it won't crunch the metering stalk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I'm referring to the current 90 f/4 macro-Elmar, not the older collapsible Elmar. The latter will certainly damage the metering stalk! I have no idea whether the current one will--just speculating & wondering out loud, not answering the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy middleton Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Just my two cents worth on the "collapsibility" of the old elmar on an M6, well I have been doing it since I bought the lens some 3 years ago with no problems , so I don't think there is an issue with sinking it back into the camera.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyaitken Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The (old) collapsing lens issue is only for the CL and M5 - what's it gonna hit on the M6?! nothing extra back there but a lick of white paint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny massey Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The new version's internals only protrude about 1mm beyond the bayonet when collapsed, which (I'm guessing) should make it safe with M5 and CL/CLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_yankin Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 The reason Leitz made the original collapsible 90 was that ERC's were all the rage back then and the rigid ones wouldn't fit. But nowadays since internet forums when using an ERC brands you as a nerd, what's the point of this lens vs an Elmarit unless you're going to pop another 8 bills for the closeup eyes. Even with it collapsed, it's hardly a pocket rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_wilder1 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Check out my gallery on the images taken with the CLE. Most were with the 90/4 macro-elmar. This lens is ideal for the CLE in maintaining a sharp compact outfit. I like the close focus of just under 0.8 meters w/o the aid of the macro adaptor. Super sharp already wide open. No need to stop down unless you need more dof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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