robert_b7 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 is the extra cost for the 50mm 1.4 worth it with respect to picture quality and consistency in comparsion to the picture quality and consistency of the 50mm 1.8 lens ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Not to me it isn't. Maybe to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Picture quality is nearly exactly the same. As the Japanese might say, they both have a little ni-sen bokeh. I kind of want to upgrade from my 1.8 to the 1.4, but I am waiting for the 1.8 to bust first. The damn thing just keeps on ticking! Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 It's p to you. I have owned all three versions and I ended up keeping the 1.4 because to me the difference in image quality was worth the extra cost and then some. I should also say that I have owned serval samples of each of the 50s (except for the Macro) and in each case and without fail, the 1.4 was clearly superior in terms of AF, color, contrast and overall image quality, including bokeh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lester_wareham Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 The 1.4 is sharper and should get sharper earlier for a given aperture. If you would notice this in a real life situation is I think moot. The speed difference is not that much, but every bit helps when you really need it. Having a distance scale, full time manual focus, or fast silent AF may be more significant to you. For me the FTMF is important and handy. I have the 1.4 but I did not have the 1.8. If I did have the 1.8 changing to the 1.4 would not have been a priority to me, I would have used the cash on some other lens on my roadmap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Image quality is about the same, although the 1.4 is a wee bit sharper from F2-5.6 but no biggy. Bokeh is a little smoother at larger apertures too. However, the 1.4 has a bit more barrel distortion below 2 meters. I find the 1.4 worth the extra benjamins merely for the metal mount, real MF ring, twist-on hood, distance & DOF scales, USM and FTM. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_carruthers Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 The 1.4 is a lot more money than the 1.8, but not really a lot of money, compared with some of the L primes. I've had them both and the 1.8 was stolen. I never replaced it. The 1.4 is so much superior in build quality, full-time-manual focus and bokeh. Unless you're really short of money, I'd definitely recommend the 1.4. The only redeeming feature of the 1.8 to me was the extremely light weight, which is what motivated me to buy it for a backpack trip. But, if you're on a tight budget, the 1.8 gives very respectable performance for a pittance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medina photography cherry Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I wanted FTM and USM so to me it was worth it, plus you get an extra stop to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbreak Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 isn't it only a 1/2 stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcolwell Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I'm happy with my 50/1.4 and I think it's worth the extra cost. As Lee said, it's really not that much more, but that depends on your budget. The 50/1.8 offers excellent performance at a bargain price, but I think that the 50/1.4 is a better lens in almost every respect. Also, f/1.4 to f/1.8 is a about a half stop, the "real" half-way point in terms of aperture area is f/1.68 = sqrt(2)^(1.5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 <p> <i>is the extra cost for the 50mm 1.4 worth it with respect to picture quality and consistency in comparsion to the picture quality and consistency of the 50mm 1.8 lens ? </i> </p> <p> Is the extra cost for the BMW or Mercedes worth it with respect to Mazda or Toyota? It's a personal question and thus what <b>I</b> or <b>he</b> think have nothing to do with what's suites <b>you</b> best. </p> <p> <a href="http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/frary/toolbox5.htm">http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/frary/toolbox5.htm</a> <b></b> </p> <p> <i> </i> </p> <p> <a href="http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/ef50/">http://www.photo.net/equipment/canon/ef50/</a> <b></b> </p> <p> <i> </i> </p> <p> <a href="http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~stelo/50vs50/">http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~stelo/50vs50/</a> <b></b> </p> <p> <i> </i> </p> <p> <a href="http://www.aeimages.com/learn/lens-quality-50.html">http://www.aeimages.com/learn/lens-quality-50.html</a> <b></b> </p> <p>Happy shooting, <br> Yakim.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 It really depends on what you want to do with the lens. If shoot outdoors alot usually stopped down then you may not see any difference between the two lenses. If you like to shoot alot of indoor available light stuff then you way well enjoy the extra speed of the 50mm 1.4. I went for the 1.8 myself as I got it used for a very good price and have not found the 1.8 aperture to be any problem, but if money was no object I would get the 1.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_jenkinson Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I recently bought a 50mm 1.4 and found that any light coloured item looked like it was wrapped in cotton wool when used on my 20D on the widest apertures. I returned it to the shop and they couldn't explain the reason for this, bearing in mind the claims from the adds that it takes モcrispヤ photos on the widest apertures. The shop keeper actually asked me to define モcrispヤ. I personally think it didnメt suit the smaller sensor of the 1.6 crop camera. In the end I paid a bit more and walked out with an 85mm 1.8 (which is very sharp from f2 and still OK on f1.8), plus a 50mm 1.8 Mk11 - which is a pleasant surprise optically. Having said that, if the 1.4s performance had been a bit better on my body ヨ Iメd probably still be using it today. The link below represents my own experiences. I think the differences between the 2 lenses are well documented i.e. colour, build quality, features and price but edge definition with the lens opened up isnメt an issue. Unless you take photos of concave surfaces or like to focus on something right at the edge of the frame, the shallow DOF is always going to blur the edge of a large aperture photo. I hope you get a sharp one whichever you choose. http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~stelo/50vs50/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affen_kot Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 good question, robert. this dilemma isn't as cut and dried as that of, say, whether to buy the €240 35mm 2.0 or the €1200 1.4 version. <p>i would suggest... if you have the money and it won't tax your finances, get the 1.4. it's marginally better in a few areas; but better is still better. <em>on the other hand</em>, if you are going to stretch your budget at all or spend more money than you feel comfortable spending, then stick with the 1.8 version. the difference in the two lenses' resolving power - as far as prints are concerned - is more than easily overshadowed by user error/user ability. cheers.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickmeertens Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 For me, the 1.4 gives a creamy smoothness to skins and pop to colour that i didn�t get with my 1.8. The difference wasn�t much though, but for me worth the money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent_j_m Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I sold my 50/1.4 at a loss. It had horrible barrel distortion. Focus speed was comparable with the 50/1.8. I didn't care if sharpness was 0.01% better than the 1.8 but distortion was very visible. I ended up buying the 1.8 after selling the 1.4. Frankly at that price it's a waste of money (to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabeeko Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Robert, The first (tux shot) is from the 1.4 and second "Jeju 2005" is from the 1.8. I didn't see much of a difference when I compared sharpness between the two lenses on a tripod.. Although when it was dark, 1.4 was useful. QUESTION TO YOU: How many times are you going to be shooting at f/1.4? <img src=http://s92499896.onlinehome.us/bbs/data/images/1130728222/IMG_6156.jpg> <img src=http://s92499896.onlinehome.us/bbs/data/images/IMG_2292.jpg> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oak_nj Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I think it would depend on how much you are going to use it, how you are going to us it, what other lenses you have and what your budget is. I considered getting either one of these for quite some time, and I am really happy that I picked the 1.4, as it is my "low light" lens and it has nice bokeh, and I like being able to use manual focus. I don't know if the quality is that much better or if the slightly larger maximum aperture has really helped that much, but it does focus at a noticeable rate faster than my friend's 50mm 1.8. Given my current lenses, I use it quite frequently w/ the digital multiplier putting it at about 80mm (I like this focal distance), which is nice for shooting inside at gatherings, or outside during night events. If I was using a film camera w/out the multiplier, then I probably wouldn't have used it as much as I do and I would have gotten the 1.8. If I was purchasing something like the 24-70 2.8 or 4.0 or the 24-105 at the same time as the 50mm, then I probably would have gone for the 1.8, since I would have used the zoom much more often. That being said, it is probably the lens I use the most on my 10D. If it is going to be the staple lens in that range, then the 50mm 1.4 is a nice addition to a 16-35mm or 17-40mm and a 70-200 variety. If I wanted to get a cheap EOS body (Elan II, etc.) to use on vacation, then I would probably get the cheaper 50mm to walk around with just in case it was stolen, etc.. I hope this helps. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Simplest thing I can find to say on this, is if you have the money for the 1.4 buy it, if not get the 1.8. I chose the 1.4 because I had the money available. If I hadn't then I would probably have bought the 1.8. What I do know is that I needed a faster lens than the kit 18-55 that came with my 350D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky2 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 <i>"Is the extra cost for the BMW or Mercedes worth it with respect to Mazda or Toyota?"</i> -- Oh, I'll definitely go for a BMW if it was $250 more expensive than my Honda.<br><br> The 50/1.4 is better although the pseudo-FTM implementation, in plain words, SUCKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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