kilgore_trout1 Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Elmwood Cemetery, Memphis, TN<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 If he, she or it is fallen, why the folded hands, why the prayer?<br> <br> ---<br> <br> I've never understood this goth thing. Why the black boots, black trench coats, black lipstick, etc. and the cemeteries? <br> <br> The Goths were a tribe of barbarians who appealed to Rome for protection from the Mongols. Rome agreed then defaulted on promises and treated them poorly. They were not assimilated into the empire, given food, clothing or land so they rebelled. They slapped around Rome (The Eternal City) for three days then moved on to parts of what is now France and Spain and became the Visigoths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilgore_trout1 Posted December 16, 2005 Author Share Posted December 16, 2005 typo F90X is my camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickspics Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Blake, good photo, sorry about the comments you received earlier. And david, I believe, but please correct me if I am wrong, that the term gothic, though not applicable to this scenario, refers to the gothic architecture, initiated during middle age famous for its churches support, aka notre dame in paris, heavy in symbolism for the new wave teenagers that roam cemetaries in black coats..more so than the tribe goths, along with wisigoths and ostrogoths... talk about research... However I agree this is the nikon forum, the pictures to be shared should be on the critique forum, though it is not a reason to be snob about it... Administrators will catch on to that occurence, which is not a big deal, if you give them time... In the future, no need to be rude, just pass your way if something isn't at your liking... thank you. nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_cooper3 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Blake, Thank you for posting your picture, I like it. The title 'Fallen Angel' is up to interpretation from ones personal view. I see/feel it as the 'Angel' is firmly anchored to the ground, not floating out in the ether. Keep on click'in. Regards, Robert Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Nikon D70. Portsmouth UK... <a href=" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/35/73216688_f8ad7be21a_o.jpg" width="511" height="769" alt="Reflective" /></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorhare/73457132/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/35/73457132_657d21f30b_o.jpg" width="511" height="769" alt="Highland road angel" /></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul.thomsen Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Its a nice subject Blake but IMVHO not a great picture - it got the look of a point and shoot to me - I think Trevors pictures show some really good creativity that would be worth considering for your subject too to create a good image with it. By the way I'm not condoning the rudeness you've rec'd here when I say I don't think its a great pic - only being honest and making suggestions (which is what I assume you wanted by posting it). I'd rather see a more interesting composition and use of light. Its a rather flat recording to me - not that I usually do any better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfarlow Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Nikon CoolPix 5400<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfarlow Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Nikon 5400 w/ B+W 093 (87C) Infrared Filter<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappoldt Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Nikon D70, 50mm 1.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_mcbride Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Blake: cemetery photos are a special favorite of mine. Actually, I should confess that I am into line, form, tone and texture photography with a 4x5 view camera and black-and- white film. Nikon content: I use Nikon LF lenses. It just so happens that there is an Elmwood Cemetery in the town where I was born (not Memphis) thus your photo caught my eye. Here are buried a lot of veterans of the War Between the States. Some of the monuments are especially large and ornate. It is too bad that our cemetery has been neglected and no longer maintained as beautifully as your Elmwood Cemetery in Memphis. In any event, I enjoyed your picture very much and do hope that you will post some more and ignore our little posse of trolls here. Every forum has at least a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye-of-searle Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Blake, Cemeteries have also been a favorite of mine as well. I just got back from a trip to Charleston, SC where I focussed almost 100% of my shooting time on the city's historic cemeteries. Hopefully, will have them scanned and on the site soon. I love the old stone in black and white. It's not goth as the "flamer" suggested. I don't get the whole Goth thing at all but unfortunately, some people do associated fine art cemetery images with Goth incorrectly. I see my images more as "spiritual" and historic, not religous, but spiritual. Also, a lot of my cemetery photography does not actually look like it's from a cemetery. I try and focus on the fine details within a cemetery. As others have mentioned, don't worry about Armando. There is no reason for his rude attack. There are tons of photos and photo subjects that don't interest me but I don't have or feel a need to needlessly criticize the photographer for taking photos that don't interest me. That's just stupid and makes no sense. Beside's being a rude bully who has to try and beat down others to make themselves feel better about themselves is so....Highschool-ish! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye-of-searle Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Wow Trevor, the second one is amazing. 1st was great as well but I really like the second one. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin. Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 American Cemetery, Cambridge, England.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 The angel is definitely not fallen in the sense you normally would use the term "fallen angel". I do see a visual pun here, though, and think the title is fine. Around here, cemeteries are one of the more interesting things to photograph. It's not the death (you don't see any corpses, after all). But rather, it's a place not frequented, and therefore something out of the ordinary to most of us, with considerable visual interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_mcdonald Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Blake,I like the photo. I might have tried to get a little shallower depth of field, and explored different angles (maybe you did, I don't know). I captured a few good shots at a cemetary in New Orleans, LA once. Thanks for the post. Joe McDonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Blake: Later for the flamers. They're not worth the trouble. I've never had much good come of photographing in cemeteries, so kudos to you for having a go at it. My only criticism of "Fallen Angel" is the out of focus green blob in the foreground. I think the photo would have been stronger without that artifact and with the background either toned down a bit or more out of focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 <em>david, I believe, but please correct me if I am wrong, that the term gothic, though not applicable to this scenario, refers to the gothic architecture, initiated during middle age famous for its churches support, aka notre dame in paris --Nicolas Lapoujade<br> </em><br> I though that Gothic architecture and art was related to the descendents of the Goths. Im not a historian but I enjoy history as long as I dont have to memorize dates and take tests. ;)<br> <br> ---<br> <br> Blake,<br> <br> The only minor criticism I have of the photograph is Id like to see the white sky on the upper right removed buy using a slightly difference angle or using a longer lens and backup. Using a longer lens takes in less background and allows for considerable selection of background. I dont know if that was possible since I obviously was not there.<br> <br> The more I look at the photo I think the problem is the white background of the web page, it doesnt contrast with the sky. When you shot the photo the frame created by the camera was black not white. Id say its a framing issue (as in presentation). I might crop the photo just a trifle tighter top and bottom. The out of focus foreground doesnt bother me. Just tossing ideas as Im no critic.<br> <br> Its so easy to claim that something is not original, as there are literally millions of photographers. I think what is important is showing another person something you like or found interesting or perhaps disturbing depending on the purpose of the photograph, but put some of yourself into the photograph. A style may be needed to sell in a salon but I think a personality is all most of us need. I see no problem with photographing seminaries. Its as valid as so many other subjects. Many famous photographers have done it.<br> <br> Thanks for sharing. I still dont think the angle is fallen, no offense was intended.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> Dave Hartman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freney_john Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I see no problem with photographing seminaries. Itメs as valid as so many other subjects. Many famous photographers have done it. Dave Hartman. -we are getting into a new subject line 'seminaries'. Of course this one also interesting ..!:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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