skinny_mcgee Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I can't believe your photos got pulled... Please tell me this was a malfuction in the system?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelging Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I agree that the photos were very good. Why do don't you just post them to your Gallery, and put the link in the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob soltis Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Nathaniel, the photos were wonderrful. Look forward to seeing them on the S & D forum. You shouldn't have to do this, but you may wish to include a statement with the post that the photos are posted for their journalistic value and not intended to make a political statement or provoke a flame war. Hopefully the trolls will get the message and leave it alone. regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-images Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 "Nels _ Photo.net Patron, mar 20, 2006; 06:28 p.m. "No we are not cut off, yes we listen to the radio, read the newspapers and browse the web." Then why no TV? I am genuinely curious, Mike." Hi Nels, getting further OT but it's that sort of thread: We have 2 children now 14 and 18. About 6 years ago television was becoming a source of conflict they wanted to watch all the time and we found ourselves arguing about homework, helping around the house... One day my usually very calm wife dropped the TV out of the second storey window onto the road - I think she wanted to demonstrate to the kids that she was serious!! Luckily nobody was below! Since then we have come to love the time to play instruments, talk, read, discuss photos, develop film, listen to music...We have broadband so the kids get to surf the net and they discuss "popular culture" with their friends. We watch movies on the laptop or at the cinema. It's not a "cause" for us, we don't want to sell the idea to others. It just happens to work for us at the moment. Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Mike, Thanks for a candid response. Always helps to know what people's motivations are behind such an odd decision. "One day my usually very calm wife dropped the TV out of the second storey window onto the road - I think she wanted to demonstrate to the kids that she was serious!! Luckily nobody was below!" Did you at least get a good shot or three of the "occasion" that you can share? I'm sure it was a Ko.... er...Leica moment. "develop film" Your kids will never forgive you for that, Mike. Train them for their tomorrow, not for your fantasy of tomorrow.:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 "Then why no TV? I am genuinely curious, Mike." Perhaps noticing all the other brain washed clones around him was a good indication to unplug it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 <p>If you can find somewhere else to host the pictures, then you'd be most welcome to post a thread including and about them over <a href="http://nelsonfoto.com/phpBB2/index.php">here</a>.</p><p>NB that forum has very strict rules of its own, but they seem to be applied fairly and you're spared the ads from goooooooogle and the other commercial noise.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Trolls or no trolls, those excellent photographs should not have been deleted. Delete the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-images Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Hi Nels, we're way off topic here but in for a penny. It's interesting that you find our decision "odd" it seems sane to us. Unfortunately no photos I wasn't there. As for training them for their tomorrow. I think that film is a great medium for developing a visual language - how they choose to use that visual language is up to them. You could as well use pen and paper, Adobe Freehand.... Best Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg lockrey Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Here we aren't allowed to express our political views with words without getting them deleted, but the owners of the site will take "ads" disguised as "polls" to push their views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 It is true that one worked-up troll can ruin a thread. Esp., if someone "takes the bait". I'm sure some people do it (troll)on purpose. If it reaches the point where people are either writing long OT dissertations, or insulting each other, I guess the moderators have no choice. Right when I joined this site, the debate over whether (& why, & when) to invade Iraq was in full flight. Boy did people get worked up! I'm sure Tony & Co. lost inches on their fingers from hitting the delete button. If the Leica forum were held in a Rathskellar instead of online, bottles, glasses, & pitchers would've been flying everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickconnolly Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Do we complain when political web sites don't allow us to post photos? Most of us are here for the photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_carruthers Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I don't know about others, but I hope for emotional responses to my photographs. It strikes me as strange that, on a photography forum, discussion of reactions is censored. If I don't want to read or otherwise participate in a thread, I can simply click the "back" button. How can one separate the photo from the emotional reaction? Isn't that what photography is supposed to be all about? Conflict is a natural human condition. Why pretend it doesn't exist? And, what are the motives behind those deletions? In case you've had your head in the sand, the entire world is actively questioning the U.S. administration's policies - and photographers are recording it. I welcome a spirited dialogue on their photographs and I certainly don't mind hearing from those with differing views. Couldn't moderators focus on deleting the ad hominem attacks while leaving the substantive postings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks for reposting, Nathan. Truly amazing to see a side of the US not seen easily on the mass media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 No word from the Moderator? Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_jones4 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Those images were of a high standard. I was hoping to look at them again at my leisure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I'll add my WTF to the moderators. This is seriously good stuff Nathaniel...if not worthy of the Leica forum, than I don't know what.SO MODERATORS, WTF GIVES...at the least, as someone suggested the photos could have been left and all the comments deleted. If you're too busy to do that (what...2 or 3 minutes) to keep photos of this quality (seriously lacking on this forum at times) then you should put out the call for more help moderating. Or at least give us a reason. Those of us who PAY for this site deserve an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Es Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Ask again. Mr. Rowlett, Would you be so kind as to explain why this thread was deleted? Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprouty Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 <I>"Mr. Rowlett, Would you be so kind as to explain why this thread was deleted?</I> <P> About six years ago he was hit on the head by a TV that mysteriously fell out of a second-story window. His memory ain't been so good since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmee Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Ted Kozak Photo.net Patron, mar 20, 2006; 05:32 p.m. It was UNamerican! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! No kiddin?????????????? Love this forum. Too bad I don't have the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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