gerald_di_giampaolo Posted May 26, 1999 Share Posted May 26, 1999 I use a 501cm with a waist level finder. I enjoy the 4X magnification of the flip-up magnifier along with the enhanced "seeing" capability of the waist level finder. However I've encountered two problems. I have difficulty using the waist level finder when shooting macros of flowers, and since I'm only 5'4'' tall, I bypass some shots because I can't see the image. I want to purchase the PM90 eye level prism because of my height, and for shooting straight down at some flowers. Should I also purchase the View Maginifier (2X) to compensate for the 2X magnification of the PM90 compared to the 4X provided by the waist level finder? What advantage is provided by viewing at 45 degrees vs. 90 degrees? Thank you. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted May 27, 1999 Share Posted May 27, 1999 Gerald. The main reason to get the PM90 is if you intend to shoot 6 x 4.5 as you can then have easy vertical/horizontal flip. The PM5 (for 45 degree viewing)has a larger magnification, and in my opinion works much better ergonomically if you are shooting 6 x 6. Of course the metered 90 degree prism is more sophisticated than the metered 45 degree prism, but I do not think this is your concern. If you are shooting general non-macro shots at 6 x 6 then I would go for the PM5. However, how well this prism would work for macro work I really don't know as I do not do much of this myself. Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_hall Posted May 27, 1999 Share Posted May 27, 1999 Hi, Jerry: I'm very comfortable with the W/L finder and it's pop-up magnifier. It seems to be about the right magnification to focus critically on about anything. It's especially good to focus in dim light (wedding groups and the like.) I also use the PM-90 because I love the "Point and Shoot" approach when I've got the whole rig assembled (Stroboframe and Quantum Flash.)But, the lower magnification of the PM-90 is a problem for me and I really need the extra magnification of the flip-up magnifier. There are times when the camera is too high on a tripod to use the W/L finder and its magnifier; here the flip-up is just great. So...I'm happy with the PM-90 and Flip-up magnifier. It's a little annoying to have it hanging(!) there but it works for me! Good Luck!DaveinFLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter walker Posted May 30, 1999 Share Posted May 30, 1999 Jerry, I chose the 45 degree prism viewfinder because: a. The 45 degree finder has larger magnification (x3) than the 90 degree (x2). b. all the backs can still be used (with the 90 you can not use the polaroid back and the 70mm film backs. c. I do a lot of portrait work and feel that with the camera on a tripod at the best height for a sitting portrait, the 45 degree finder is right where it needs to be to look comfortably into the camera. This is even more so, with the model closer to the ground (e.g. sitting on the floor). d. Before I purchased, I handled the camera with both and found that the camera body sits better in my hands with the 45 degree finder. To me, it felt that, with the 90 finder, the shutter release finger position was not as natural. My advice: Go to your favourite Hasselblad shop and try both finders and see one works best for you. Shoot some shots with both finders, simulating the kind of shooting environment / position that you prefer. Buy the one that "feels right". Regards Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter walker Posted May 31, 1999 Share Posted May 31, 1999 Jerry, One last comment regarding magnification: In my experience, there is always a trade-off with more magnification. Whilst things get bigger, and therefore easier to focus, they also distort somewhat. With a magnifier in place your eye can only see part of the image clearly. The best way, IMHO, to frame and previsualise an image is directly on the ground glass screen. However, sometimes the details are too small to be sure about focus. That's why, the pop-up finder on the standard Hasselblad includes a little pop-up magnifying glass. But of course, the best way to use this is to frame the image, pop up the magnifier, check the focus and then push down the magnifier before taking the shot. I think that, if you used the magnifier all the time, your images may not be well framed. This is becaue, with a magnifier in place, you have a move your eye around to see the whole image. You can not see the full effect of the whole image. So my point (I am wandering a bit), is that, if the magnifier is easily removed, then it might be useful sometimes to pop it on to check focus in a complex image. But if it is more-or-less permanent, then I would not recommend it. Personally, I do not feel a need for an additional magnifier with the 45 degree prism. Its inbuilt 3x magnification seems to be enough for accurate focusing in all my shooting situations (portraits, travel and architecture). However, your photography work may require more difficult focusing, in which case the magnifier might be justified. I guess I have talked myself around to repeating my original suggestion: Try both the finders both with and without magnifiers and see what combination feels right for you. Regards Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_voth Posted June 18, 1999 Share Posted June 18, 1999 I agree with the comments above about the benefits of 45 degree viewfinders. The Hassy is a bit easier to hold cradled in the palm. At eye level with a 90 degree finder you don't have the same ergonomics. (Of course, this is only pertinent if you are not using a tripod.) Nonetheless, I bought and use a PME-90 prism with my 503CW. The reason is this finder is a "high eyepoint" type that provides greater eye relief if you wear glasses, and for me is much easier to view. I also use the great Winder CW, which makes the camera much easier to hold at eye level. Since you want to do some shooting directly down, a 90 degree prism may be a better choice. -Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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