david_altmann Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 wich RZ lens do you use for beauty shots ? (im talking about very close headshots) on a 35mm i would use a 180mm at least. that means i had to get the 360 apo or the 500. the 500 is not fun to use anymore (not talking about the price), i dont know about the 360. i also dont know many people who use the 500. what do you PN people use ? 250+TC ? cropping ? a digital back ? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akajohndoe Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Check out some prior work and see what effects are your preference. A couple of sources that come to mind, although not neccessarily beauty/glamor-but still portraiture, are: The Complete Rolling Stone Covers 1967-1997, ISBN 0-8901-3797-2 Location Portrature, ISBN 1-883403-37-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Most people would proably use the 150mm or 180mm in the RZ lens family. I'm not sure what focal lengths are available in the RB line. I have the 180 and it's a nice sharp lens but too heavy to use hand held for any period of time. Since most of my shooting is hand held I'm thinking of checking out the 150mm. It appears to be a little smaller and lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavelp Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 The 180mm lens will focus down to 3'7.7" and has the maximum magnification 0.26x. That should be close enough to fill the frame with just a face. Check <a href=http://www.mamiya.com>Mamiya's website</a> for specs of other lenses.<br><br> Mamiya has belows focusing so you can focus closer than with most other cameras. Some people even use the 127mm standard lens (RB, available in K/L design) for potraits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akajohndoe Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 FWIW, I would probably opt for either the 180 or the 250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 I've got the rb and a 180. While you can certainly get close enough to get a head to fill the frame, I didn't care for the look (feature exageration). Try renting a 250 if possible. I don't think you'll need the 360, but I wouldn't rule it out. I haven't tried the tele tube, but losing a stop wasn't attractive. You could always crop the 180 frame. How big an enlargement do you entend to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_altmann Posted September 25, 2005 Author Share Posted September 25, 2005 thanks for the answers so far, the problem is not the focussing, actually this gets worse with longer lenses. but i would never ever use a 75mm lens on a 35mm camera for a headshot. even a 85 is very short. but everyone uses the 180 on the RZ, this is exactly my observation. i could use the 180 and crop 50% of the slide but thats not the way to use this camera. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy_cote Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 The 250 in studio, the 360 and 250 outdoors on location. The 180 doesn't cut it for very close head shots. Darcy Cote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles_feigenbaum___dallas_ Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 The 180 doesn't cut it for very close head shots. Now that funny, very funny!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think you've ever used a 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanky Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 The best I've gotten with my 180mm was head and shoulders. A couple weeks ago while visiting family I tried to frame just my neices face in the entire ground glass and found I couldn't focus it. I had to move back and then the image came in sharp but again I had to fit her whole head and most of the upper body to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_altmann Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 Miles i also think a 180 is simply too short for close headshots. i can recognise pictures taken with a too short lens easyly. i know in the art scene people love to take portraits with shorter lenses. its _interesting_. interesting is not commercial (sadly). Marc its not a matter of focussing, you simply use one or more extension ring. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy_cote Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I have a 37mm, 50mm, 110mm, 180mm, 250mm, 360mm, 100-200mm lens since 1995. What lenses do you have. :-) Darcy Cote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svein_erik1 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 250mm APO or 350mm APO :) 180mm is too short to have a good working distance to the model and allow for flexible lighting in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakley Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I used a 110 for <a href="http://www.rangefinderforum.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=13402&cat=4827&page=1">this</a>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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