d_purdy Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 I just got a plate back for my rollei TLR and since there are lots of Rollei users in here I thought I would post my observations for anyone who might be interested, as I was personally intrigued for years about the back before I actually put the money up and got one. I expected it might be quite a pain in the butt to use the holders because of the difficulty of cutting film and loading. I also was a bit leary that using the back on my very nice condition camera might cause some sort of internal rub wear. In the first place putting the back on the camera is very easy once I found that you have to take out the ground glass holder first. It is quite a struggle with the ground glass till in place. I was surprised to find that even without Rolleinars the actual image projected on the back is significantly different that the one in the viewing screen...the image on the back is what the film will see. You get more all round on your film than you see in the finder, and there are definite parallax differences. I was also surprised to find that cutting film and loading it into holders is very easy. I used 4x5 film. I first cut the long side so the film was 3.5 X 5, then I cut that in half to give me two 3.5 X 2.5 peices of film. they fit in the holder perfectly and loading the film is very easy to do. The only thing is you have to remember in the dark which side has the emultion. The unforseen advantage to using 4X5 film is that it is much thicker and lays very flat. With the system of the holders to push the film up to the film track in the camera it will give you very flat film.. every bit as flat as using an optical glass back on the camera. You can also cut down 120 film to size and save a little money but there is the convenience of the 4x5 film lying flat vs the 120 film curling into tubes to consider. I was also surprised when comparing the image in the viewer vs on the ground glass back to find that the depth of field looks quite different even with the taking lens wide open. the out of focus stuff seems more out of focus with the taking lens than from the viewing lens. (Xenotar 2.8) Especially while I still had my Maxwell bright screen in. I had to stop the Xenotar down to about 5.6 and a half to get the image to look the same depth of field as the 2.8 viewing lens. I put my original Rollei screen in and it was better though still quite different than the Xenotar. I used the back yesterday and even printed from the negs. It works very well. I was surpised to find the 6x6 image on one end of the cut film rather than in the middle. it gives you about an inch of film on one side to handle without touching the image. Also once I figured out all the correct procedures the system worked very well and easily. the holders slide in and out easily and there was no fogging or scratching. I paid 49 dollars for the complete set on ebay and no one bid against me. For that amount of money it might be worth it just to be able to check the image on the back from the taking lens. I am very happy with the purchase and I think I will keep my eye open for spare film holders. I hope someone finds this info useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio_ortega7 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Dennis, Interesting observations and experiences. Good point on the inherent stiffness and flatness of cut-down sheet film vs. 120...have you noticed any significant improvement in sharpness at wide apertures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_purdy Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 when I had a 2.8 E2 Xenotar with an optical back and optical glass I did notice an improvement in sharpness up to f5.6. I have'nt had time to do a bunch of tests with the cut film back but I did notice that the image is very sllightly smaller with the cut film back vs normal. I am not sure what to make of that or how it is even possible unless the 120 film is sitting up a bit from the film track with the normal back whilst the sheet film is right down on it with the cut film back. I have been of the opinion that my Xenotar's sharpest fstop was f 16. Perhaps I will find that isn't the case with the cut film back . In any case with or without the cut film back I have found this xenotar very sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_purdy Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 In case anyone ever pulls this out of the archives, now that I have used the plate back several times I think it is a very well designed and functional tool. However the idea of cutting film down from 120 or 220 rolls is very nearly impossible due to the curl of the film. it is just too hard to handle in the dark and get the film cut and loaded in the holders. Cutting down 4x5s is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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