lawrence_bochkis Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Searches have not given me any definitive results, so I appologize if this has been hashed out before: I just spoke to one of my local camera shops, and the guy there told me that it is no longer possible to modify non-ai lenses to ai, because the parts are no longer available, and while people still "cobble together" solutions, as a rule it's not possible anymore. Is that true? I'm new to Nikon, and so far all I have is an FG, but I'm looking to get some lenses, especially very fast lenses like the 55's, etc. If it is possible, I would like to know how to do it, and how much it might cost...I've read that in the past it was relatively simple, but the camera shop guy told me that it isn't. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Freeman Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 "I just spoke to one of my local camera shops, and the guy there told me that it is no longer possible to modify non-ai lenses to ai" Complete rubbish (almost). NIKON no longer offers an AI conversion service, and no longer stocks AI conversion kits. BUT ... there are AI kits still available from a couple of sellers for SOME lenses, and for those where parts are no longer available, there are a couple of outfits that will "cobble together" a solution by machining the original aperture ring. http://www.aiconversions.com/ http://hometown.aol.com/wdshpbiz/AImod.html http://billrogers.com/nikonai.html (OEM AI conversion kits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_olander1664878205 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 There probably aren't any AI conversion parts available, but John White still does these, I believe. His web site is: http://www.aiconversions.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael R Freeman Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Also, note that SOME non-AI lenses, even AFTER conversion, should not be mounted on the FG (this includes the 55/1.2). Not sure why, but obviously there is an interference issue somewhere.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee hamiel Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Check Pacific Rim Camera: http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/ Easy to do it yourself if they are available for your lens Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence_bochkis Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 Thanks for the tips guys, I had a feeling the mod's were still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas_green1 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 FYI, It will always be doable, because it doesn't actually require any parts. Nikon's own conversion used a replacement aperture ring, but this isn't necessary at all. You can file or machine an AI notch into any existing F-mount lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Google John White in Michigan. He charges around $25 per lens, and does nice clean work. A lot of photographers do this to enjoy using the classic chrome barrel (non AI) Nikkors on modern (AI) bodies. People say these werent multi coated, and designed by computers, and therefore are inferior to later lenses. This is rubbish as well! Remember that camera sales people are generally clueless to reality. They only know and speak the latest & greatest gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky2 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Just curious-- I have a Nikkor 105/2.5 P, pre-AI, but I can hardly see anyone converting this specific lens. Is it doable these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas_green1 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Yaron, I don't know if it's still doable with an official replacement Nikon AI-ring, but I personally did one myself by filing the proper AI-notch into the existing aperture ring of a 105mm f2.5 Nikkor-P. As I said previously, it's technically doable on ANY Nikon F-mount lens, (Including off brands - I've done a couple of Vivitars that nobody would do commercially) now and forever more, because you don't actually need to replace the aperture ring - you can machine or file the existing ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_mcdonald Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 John White did three lenses for me. Very nice job. An honest and decent guy for sure. Joe McDonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_watson Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 A contrarian approach is to avoid the amateur surgery or often not-so-pretty "pro"(sic)AI jobs and simply get a body with a flip-up AI tab(e.g., an FE body).I have several of these, a couple of F3s, along with a trove of non-AI lenses. Stop-down metering is a no-brainer.The Nikon-made kits(chiefly a new aperture ring) that went into "factory" AI conversions are long-gone but do surface occasionally on the big auction site, as do "factory" converted lenses.I've seen a few too many hack AI jobs that actually showed serious damage a la Dremel to the rear element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Re <i>o "factory" AI conversions are long-gone </i><BR><BR>When there are a dozen offered on ebay at once; brand new in the box as sold stock; this is not long gone. There are probably many thousands still lurking in old camera stores; the ones not popular on Photo.net. here I have bought about eight AI kits; brand new off of ebay in the last 2 years; and a couple at old junky stores; in time warp mode. <BR><BR>The kits were not made for all lenses; some real old lenses never had Nikon AI rings made.<BR><BR>Many of us sent our Nikkors to Nikon and paid the 35 to 40 bucks in the late 1970's; and had them AI modified.<BR><BR>A few Nikkors are too big around; and need milling on the aperture ring to clip the diameter down a grunt.<BR><BR>I modified my 5.8cm F1.4 Nikkor many years ago myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff bishop Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Converting a non-ai lens to ai is a simple process. You can switch the aperture ring if you can find one available, or mill out the notch. It isn't difficult at all. There is a process on the web, but I don't have it book-marked. It would be a lot easier directing you there rather than explaining it myself. I've converted the following Nikkors myself: 28mm, 35mm, 43-86mm, 50mm 1.4, 50mm 2.0, 135mm, 200mm, and 300mm. To further my point, 90% of all film I shoot is slide. Perfect exposure everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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