brandon_mckenney1 Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I am going to be switching over to new chemicals instead of Kodak. Iwas wondering what people recommended. I am debating between eitherSprint or Clayton. Any opinions?? I shoot mostly Tri-X so far.Sometimes T-Max or Ilfords.. Any input is welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randall ellis Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 I have never used either but I have heard good things about Clayton and the rep is often online on this site. I will forgo developer suggestions since those are covered daily in far too many posts, but Photographers Formulary fixer (TF-4) works well for me with Ilford, Kodak, and Efke films. As for a washing agent, all of them seem to work well. - Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowland_mowrey Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Please read my thread (comparison) of Clayton, Kodak and Formulary fixes on another forum here. Also read comments here about Clayton developers. There are a few that might help you. Ron Mowrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Though I'm, frankly, scratching my head over why people are in a rush to dump Kodak I'll chime in... I think Sprint QuickSilver is bloody *awful* stuff. I base that opinion on two aspects of its performance - a shelf-life of no more than a couple months and a pre-disposition for turning all non-Ilford and non-Kodak papers a cyanotic shade of blue. It does absolute violence to Forte Polygrade V - so much so that you'd swear it had been toned in Berg Iron Blue Toner. I can't vouch for the Clayton developers first-hand. But it's worth noting that their so-called Cold Tone developer was tested by Bruce Barlow for a piece in "View Camera" and found to produce some of the warmest tones among the developers he tested. Perhaps that says enough; it does for me. Do keep in mind that Sprint and Clayton are privately-held companies they could go belly-up with nary a warning or whimper. If you're going to dump Kodak I'd recommend going with Ilford or AgfaPhoto - at least they tell you (or warn you) where you stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Consider also the Photographer's Formulary. One advantage is that there wares are usually closely (if not identical) based on published formulas. That could come in handy if the pre-packaged product suddenly becomes unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 I have been using a lot of Clayton F-76+ film developer, and have really been impressed. You can use a variety of dilutions and virtually any film I or my students have thrown at it have come out well-even Kodak and MACO infrared. As for Ilford & AGFA being more "stable", well, I'm switching to F-76+ because Ilford's DD-X is nearly impossible to find. I'm disgusted with Kodak too, but will use Tri-X, HIE and Plus-X until the last roll of film rides off into the sunset from Rochester..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_malone Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Dear Brandon: I use mostly Sprint for Fuji and Ilford film and have been pretty happy with it. I've also evaluated Clayton F76+ and was quite impressed with it on Efke 25 and 100 films. I've never been very happy with Sprint for T-Max films, (I use T-Max developer) but maybe that's just me. My local shop carries Sprint and gives me a good price on it, otherwise I'd probably use more of the Clayton chemistry. The suggestion about Photographer's Formulary is a good one. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Jim, what are your times for F-76+ and Efke? Can't find much info on those except for JOBO processing on digital truth. That's great for the 2% of people with a JOBO..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_malone Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Russ: Actually, I contributed the times for the Jobo on Digitaltruth. As a starting point, I'd take those times and decrease them by about 10% for hand processing. When I was working up the starting times, I found that as little as 10 seconds made a discernable difference in film development for Efke. so, you'll probably just have to play around. Also, I like the F76+ at a 1+19 dilution a little better - but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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