cenelsonfoto Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Kowa 6, 85mm/f4 - APX100 at box, developed in Rodinal... 8ml Rodinal/550ml H2O for 15 mins @ 68F, 2 inversions every 30 secs. Look ok to me, but these are the first decent images from Rodinal, my second attempt at using the soup.<p> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3555506-lg.jpg"><p> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3555511-lg.jpg"><p> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3555550-lg.jpg"><p> Crop of above scan: 100% of original unsharpened, reduced to 100dpi:<br> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3555593-lg.jpg"><p> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3555700-lg.jpg"><p> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3555701-lg.jpg"><p> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3555830-lg.jpg"><p> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/3556065-lg.jpg"><p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_elek Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 You've really taken to the Kowa 6. It seems that you've become very comfortable and very proficient with it. Very nice work indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesged Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 You've got some beauties there, Craig. My favorites are the profile of Krista. In the detail, you can hear the sharpness in that film and soup. The dual portraits of Krista and Austin are also excellent. Are you still traveling, or back home? That Kowa is a wow of a camera. Keep snapping up life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connealy Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Certainly can't find anything to criticize in those fine renderings in terms of sharpness and interesting tonalities. As a Rodinal enthusiast, though, I wonder how you came up with those proportions, times and temps for (new) APX 100? Doesn't that work out to 1:68.75? Seems pretty esoteric. Also, if you were doing a roll at a time, 558ml seems like a bit more than needed to cover the film, and certainly more than I could fit in my single reel tank. I'm not suggesting you change anything since you are obviously getting some very satisfying results, but I'm always curious how people arrive at the variety of mixes in chemistry, which always seems to me like something that should be simpler than it ends up being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Mike, Les... thanks. Lester - we were only in NM for 3 days... no, 4. Had to get back to keep after job search, etc. In other news, it appears I probably fractured, at bare minimum, one of the little bones along the top of my foot, OR I severely damaged one of the muscles, whatever. This happened on the 10th when my daylight tank flew out of my hand while trying to whip the water off it. As I have no insurance, I aint going to find out what exactly what busted - I can still support my weight on that foot, so it can't be too bad, but I'm having to take it easy and keep it elevated. Figure a few more days before real healing. Have an ACE around it. Life.... it's marvelous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Hey there, Mike... yeh, weird dilution. The only science being that I knew I needed somewhere between 5.5 & 10ml to get it right. MASSDEV quoted 20 mins @ 1/100, that would have been 5.5 ml (550ml to cover a 120 reel in a plastic daylighter), so I went to 8ml to split the difference. As I understand it, the extra - if you look at it at that way - the extra syrup will not make a difference unless it is needed. I wanted to be certain that I didn't under-dev. If you have some Rodinal pointers for me, please feel free to e-mail me off-forum. Would be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskovacs Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Nice stuff and great to have a cooperative subject. About your foot, I know someone that got a similar type of fracture. He was in a cast for 3 months and reqd surgury from a pot landing on top of his foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Mike - does that grain look about right to you? I'm sure I could get it smoother at higher dil, but I kinda like the grain as/is. Plus, HC110 would be my idea for more velvety look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Last question was for Connealy - being assaulted by Mikes! :) Kovacs - I'm fairly certain it's tissue damage only. No pain other than for swelling at the point of impact. I've prodded to see if I can sense anything broken inside... frankly, I've taken some major hits in life and never broken any thing, and I mean I've taken some hard shots - feel nearly 10' vertical down a warehouse ladder masquerading as steps, hit solid concrete slab... still alive. I am being much more careful with my equipment, these days. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connealy Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 The grain is outstanding - much better than I would usually expect from Rodinal. I'm really no expert; just trying to figure it out myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenotar28 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Nice work. I also like the profile of Krista with the nice background bokeh. The grain is also very nice. Keep shooting with that Kowa. It fits you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josphy Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Hey, CE... I don't think this line of thinking about Rodinal ("As I understand it, the extra - if you look at it at that way - the extra syrup will not make a difference unless it is needed.") is right. I mean, the "extra" syrup isn't going to just wait around in case the other 5ml gets exhausted and then step in -- it's gonna go to work on the film right along with the rest. I think the idea with this stuff is, you keep the dilution constant, but just increase the total amount of liquid in the tank. So if you are supposed to maintain 8ml of concentrate per roll of 120, and you wanted to do a 1:100 dilution, then you would need 808ml of the total solution (syrup+water) which might mean that you would need to do just one roll of film in a tank designed for two rolls just to accomodate that much liquid. However, in practice, I think people do some pretty high dilutions of Rodinal without worrying too much about that supposed minimum amount of concentrate. If I remember correctly, I have read some people over in the B&W forum doing really low amounts like 3ml-5ml without problems. On the other hand, it's not like 1+25, 1+50 or 1+100 are magical numbers any more than 1+68 or whatever u came up with...as long as you hit on a time that works for you to match that dilution/temperature, which it seems like you did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thanz Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Great work. I like #5 for the focus on the eyes and 8 for the natural expressions. I'll lend you some advice for your injury, R.I.C.E. (rest, ice, compression, elevation). That comes from 3 years as a nursing student so take it as you wish, and mix in some ibuprofen for the swelling. Good Luck and keep shooting!Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 19, 2005 Author Share Posted July 19, 2005 Roger that, Todd. George, Joseph... thanks to you both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito sobrinho Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 CE, excellent pictures of your beautiful wife and son! Please, don't sell the Kowa. Never used Rodinal, but perhaps I will try it. My thing is that I've been so attached to HC-110 for the last 20 years that I'm afraid to change. Regarding your foot...If you can walk without pain, an ACE bandage is enough as well as Todd's suggestions! Cheers, Tito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelging Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 OK CE , I am going to be the fly in the ointment. The photos themselves are great, you have a very photogenic family. I too like the sharpness and fine grain.My comment would be that the images look a little flat, lacking contrast and a full range of tones. Photo #7 is the closest to what I like , but the others lack the snap that you get from a full range neg. I know photographers who love the Kowa 6 ,although like its brother the Bronica 6x6 , I would not want to take a photo in a quiet room ,with that big mirror going up and down. Yout wife's and yours sons eyes are a exact match.Thanks for sharing the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff bishop Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 All very nice shots. I especially like the one of her leaning back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Jeff - that's my favorite of the batch as well. Michael, thanks for the insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidom Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 After playing around with different developers and since Ilford ID11 is not so easy to get any more, I fell back to using Calbe R09, which is the original Rodinal formula. I use it very highly diluted (1:150) with a rotary processor and get very nice results with APX 100 35mm film, which by the way is the cheapest way of developing film. Rodinal changes it's charakter very much when dilution is changed. At 1:40 you have strong negs with coarse grain, at 1:150 grain is still visible, but much finer and you get the whole grey scale with easily printable negs. This is a very nice combination for classic camera use, as most classic lenses can't deliver the resolution a modern film such as T-Max or Delta is capable of. APX 100 is also more forgiving with incorrect exposure than modern film, which is nice when you use 70+ year old mechanical shutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce_appel Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 I love apx in rodinol in my rollei. I shoot it at an ei of 80, give it 12 minutes in rodinol 1:50 at 68. Agitate continous for first minute, 5 sec every 30 second therafter. These negatives print very well on #2 paper under a cold light head. With a condensor develpment would need to be some shorter. I love the tonality and sharpness of this combo. Tried it in 35, but grain was too big for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan_stark Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Craig- I think that Kowa is your "camera for life." You do nice work with other cameras too, but the Kowa seems to bring out something special for you. Keep shooting. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahams Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 As usual, Craig, lovely shots of lovely people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Bruce - I will try your version next, think I tried something close to that the first time but underexposed & underdeveloped negatives plus exhausted fixer equaled disaster for me. Was worried I would end up disappointed this time, but not to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Tito, ACE bandage seems to be doing the trick. I promise not to sell the Kowa, until I can afford the Hassy babe of my dreams. The Kowa is a nice piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenelsonfoto Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Jon - the Kowa, for me, is a good fit. Thanks for the kind words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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