david_chong2 Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Leafy road , KL<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_chong2 Posted June 23, 2005 Author Share Posted June 23, 2005 Sorry folks, degraded the inage too much trying to get it down to size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence_bochkis Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 but yest, I do see a slight magenta cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsoonphoto.net Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Nope, no magenta here. Pretty green to me. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hash Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Is magenta pink or blue-green? I can never remember!! I don't see any cast on this one tho. -hash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 About 5cc magenta. You can see it in the road and sky. This is an uncalibrated moinitor at work, but it is pretty new and gets nice sarurated colors without being gaudy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 I agree with Ronald, also on the top parts of the lamp posts ? Was it over-filtered because of the trees? Bruno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_chong2 Posted June 23, 2005 Author Share Posted June 23, 2005 Thanks for the responses; particularly to Ronald & Bruno. The shot was taken on Portra NC, which I use in Malaysia (instead of VC) 'cos the light is clear, bright & contrasty & colours are vivid. I'm trying to learn to scan (Nikon 5000ED) & Photoshop & looks like omitting the first step of calibrating the monitor ain't helping much. I haven't got a lab print to compare with. Grateful to anyone who can point me in the direction of a good Photoshop tutorial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Yes, CC05M. Add CC05G and you're in business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Yes, there is a touch of magenta. When in doubt, err towards yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Yes, the road looks a little purple. Using "levels" in Photoshop and touching the grey eye droper to the street would bring it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 ---<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 And oh: next time, post a more interesting picture to illustrate the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrum Kelly Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 David, you don't need an extended tutorial on this one. Just know the complementary colors for RGB, which are CMY. That is, red is additive and cyan is subtractive--which is why they are opposed to each other on the color balance adjustment. The next "slide" down on color balance has green as additive and magenta as subtractive, and, finally, on the last "slide," blue is additive and yellow is subtractive. In the present case, that means that, if you perceive too much green, move the middle "slide" (the magenta-green one) slightly away from magenta and toward green. In this case, it would not take much before the greens would go out the roof, and so you won't need much green to balance out the slight excess of magenta. You do NOT need to touch the yellow-blue adjustment on this one. I like the photo. I would like to see it in a bigger version, but the clarity still comes through. That is a sharp lens, and its qualities still show in spite of the small size of the uploaded file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy_tok Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 <i>I like the photo. I would like to see it in a bigger version, but the clarity still comes through. That is a sharp lens, and its qualities still show in spite of the small size of the uploaded file.</i><p>You have a much more discerning eye than I'll ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrum Kelly Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 David, if, on the other hand, there is an excess of blue and not magenta, you will need to move the yellow-blue "slide" away from blue and slightly toward yellow. I am not absolutely sure in this case where the imbalance lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrum Kelly Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Jeremy, I don't have that great an eye, but the detail on the leaves and ferns (if that is what they are on the limbs) does come through, in my totally non-expert opinion, in spite of the small size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrum Kelly Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Sorry, David. My first post should read, "if you perceive too much magenta, move the middle slide (the green-magenta one) away from magenta and toward green." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 Jeremy, it could stand a tweak more G. There may be actual colored inlays in the sidewalk, just to confuse things. I'd expect more G would add an ugly cast to the featureless sky...slightly increased brightness or contrast would blow it out. The light we see does make things "vivid," but it's flat, not "contrasty." Zero shadows. The film or scan may be crossed-over a little, which adds to the complexity...matching the asphalt to a neutral grey with the eyedropper MIGHT therefore still suggest visual correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_ilomaki Posted June 23, 2005 Share Posted June 23, 2005 David Nice shot-reminiscent of happy times in KL- very humid 'tho! What film is it? It looks like the artifact you get from outdated negative film, which is often difficult to fix 100% with ordinary colour shifts in Photoshop. Cheers Lah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_chong2 Posted June 24, 2005 Author Share Posted June 24, 2005 Thank you all, particularly Landrum. Film was Kodak Portra NC 160. Not a v. interesting shot but the light was a lot better than what you see; there's a few more shots in the series which I might post when time allows. Learning lah, as Malaysians say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrum Kelly Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 I still think that it is interesting, David, but I am an aficionado of road shots, which always remind me of the words of Charles Kuralt: "There's a bend in the road up ahead. I wonder what's around the bend." I would still like to see a larger version, to see what that old Summitar is capable of. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabrielma Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Wow, either my monitor needs adjusting, or I'm "tone-deaf"; I barely see a difference. I think the first picture is a bit warmer than the last one, but just barely, only in the highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_meadows1 Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Look at your info tool with the color picker on a neutral area of the road. All chanels should be close in value. A high # in one of the channels will suggest a color cast. Open levels and double click the midtone picker. Set the channels to 127. Do same for highlight and shadow. Set highlight to 245 and shadow to 10. By selecting the gamma (midtone) in levels and clicking on the neutral area of the road should neutralize a cast. You can keep clicking around the image until you get what you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_meadows1 Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I've just looked at the file- if anything, it's a little blue. Open the levels tool and select the blue channel. Pull the gamma slider to the right until you see the changes that you like. With the info tool open, you'll see the values come into balance. You can never argue witht the numbers. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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