roisin_murphy Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Do you think the next revisions of L lenses will all include IS? Eventhe standard and wide zooms? would you rather have constant f/2.8 or alighter, smaller constant f/4 with IS? How much weight is this adding?Wonder how havier would my 200mm f/2.8 prime be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_white2 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I hope not. IS doesn't help with moving subjects. It doesn't give you shallower depth of field. I doesn't reduce the cost of a lens or improve its optical performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_van_eynde Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 would like to see a 30mm f1.4 with IS! And wished they had a 70-200 f4L IS for the same price as the current version! Since IS only helps with non moving objects it depends on what you shoot. About the extra weight : see the difference of weigth between the Canon EF 70-200 f2.8L and the 70-200 f2.8L IS. Know this might not be the same for other types of IS (but it gives you an idea). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_c2 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I agree with the last post: IS on really fast, wide lenses would be great! I don't care if it doesn't freeze action; it gives you an extra couple in low-light. But a 35/1.4L, for example, is already over $1000; how much would it cost with IS on it? Maybe even too much for pros. Does anyone know if IS adds to the bulk of a lens? That would be another factor to consider, if it did... Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 <I>Since IS only helps with non moving objects it depends on what you shoot.</i><P> Yes and no. Even with a moving subject IS can help by ameliorating blur due to camera shake (leaving blur from subject motion unaffected, of course). The longer the lens, the more a given amount of camera shake impacts image quality.<P> I heartily agree that a 70-200/4 with IS would be wonderful -- such a mythical beast probably would bulk up a little from the current non-IS version, but not a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I hope not. I don't want to think of how much lenses like the 85/1.2 or 135/2 would suffer if IS was added to them. There's something to be said for sensor-level IS that allows to use any lens design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_van_eynde Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Might be....but then our wallet wouldn't! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_phan Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 It'll be just like it is today: IS on some L lenses, no IS on other L lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crowe Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Hope not! Just something else to go wrong, and they do detract from pure optical quality. Keep it as an option only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 I hope so. You can always turn IS off, and they have IS units that are just 2 elements now. The slight theoretical reduction in contrast would be worth the extra hand-holdability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 <p>I can't see it; for instance, if/when Canon comes up with a replacement for the 16-35/2.8, I can't see them putting IS on it. Ditto on the 30/1.4, 50/1.2L, or 50/1.4 II for which many people have been begging.</p> <p>On telephoto primes, it seems clear that Canon believes IS is the way to go; apart from macro lenses, it's been almost a decade since the last non-IS telephoto primes were introduced (the last few were released in 1996). On L telephoto zooms, perhaps, though if (for instance) they replace the 70-200/4 at some point, a non-IS version makes sense because this is targeted at a price point that an IS version couldn't hit (though it would be nice to see an IS version as an addition to the lineup). I doubt the 24-70/2.8 would be replaced by an IS version, though if they were to do as a lot of people suggested and release a 24-80/4, it would be in the same boat as the 70-200 (IS would be useful, but the point of the lens is to be inexpensive, which rules out an IS-only release).</p> <p>It's hard to say how much weight IS adds, as the IS and non-IS versions of any given lens may have some other differences which affect weight. Adding IS to the 300/4 only added 25g (that's about 1 oz for those who use archaic measurements); it added 170g (about 6 oz) to the 75-300 and 160g (about 6 oz) to the 70-200/2.8, so I think it's fair to say the weight difference from IS is closer to the latter two pairs than the first. There are no other directly comparable IS/non-IS pairs of lenses (the IS superteles, for instance, are completely different designs than their predecessors, making such a comparison useless in determining the weight of IS). The price difference seems to be about USD500 for pro IS (based on the 70-200) and USD225 for consumer IS (based on the 75-300), neither of which is an insignificant amount of money.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_t Posted July 26, 2005 Share Posted July 26, 2005 I sure hope not. While I think IS technology is great for those who need it, it is just one extra piece of technology that can break down. I'm happy with my non-IS lenses, for their lighter weight and sometimes sharper signature relative to IS cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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