peter_rowe Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I have the Canon 70-200mm f4 (20D) and like it, but I don't have the tripod collar which you all know costs an arm, a leg, and 2 ribs. So, a friend suggested the Bogen 3420 Telephoto Lens Support and I bought it from B&H for about $60. It's a general purpose support, see the image below. So far here's what I see: the all-metal construction is good and it comes with the quick release and everything needed. It fits the 20D and 70-200mm f4 fine in lenght but the strap at front circles the focus ring. This is not great so I've tried it without the strap -- it's fine but watch that you don't forget when you take the camera off. I also tried putting the strap on the lens hood which looks and works good. It does raise the camera and lens and so it really needs a stable and solid tripod platform. It was rockity on my small Velbon since it amplifies all it's weaknesses($150) but on my friends Bogden it is rock solid. Having both the lens and camera supported makes for a very stable setup on top and of coures it balances nicely. I also got the RS-80N3 remote switch for about $50. On the monopod it works even better since you can rest your hand in the gap on top of the monopod, and the monopod itself gives a stable platform. It's definitely a lot better setup that just the camera on the tripod or monopod. It is quite a chunk of metal so carting it around is an extra hassle. Anyway, it's an alternative to at least look at. --Peter<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I think I'd pay the extra $30 and get the Canon collar. This could be useful for long lenses that don't have a built in tripod mount, don't change length when zoomed and don't have a rotating front barrel, but off hand I can't think of any in the Canon lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_p2 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=211436&is=REG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Like Mike and Bob indicated, the black Tripod Ring A is only $89.95 at B&H (for some reason cheaper than the white Tripod Ring A). Why waste your time with Rube goldberg devices that don't work nearly as well or as conveniently? The best thing about the Tripod Ring A is it's designed for rapid change from horizontal and vertical orientation. Otherwise I wouldn't bother as the 70-200 is light enough a tripod mount isn't needed. When I bought the balck Tripod Ring A a few years ago it was only $65, but I use it on my EF 200 2.8L USM, 70-200 4L USM and 300 4L USM (non-IS). Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 >> The best thing about the Tripod Ring A is it's designed for rapid change from horizontal and vertical orientation. Otherwise I wouldn't bother as the 70-200 is light enough a tripod mount isn't needed. I fully agree. Then again, for rapid change from horizontal to vertical I use my 322RC2. Thus, unlike Peter, I have never found a real need for a tripod collar on my current 200/2.8 and former 70-200/4. They are light enough and not heavy enough to need it, at least IMHO. Happy shooting, Yakim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvin_wong3 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 i have both the white (ring A<W>) and black (ring B<B>) canon tripod collars. they are different, and i know there's a black version of tripod mount ring A. have you considered the reason-maybe-canon produced a white and black version is to help consumers differeniate between the ring mount B<B>(macro lens usage only); and the ring mount A<B> for aesthetic reasons only? and in regards to the photographer who said that he uses the tripod mount ring A<B> on his 300 f4; i'm pretty sure that the new 'is' version actually uses the mount ring B<B> painted in white, without the adapter(same usage in 180 macro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 <I>i have both the white (ring A) and black (ring B) canon tripod collars. they are different, and i know there's a black version of tripod mount ring A.</i><P> There is a black version for macro lenses, and there is ANOTHER black version for telephotos and telezooms like the 70-200/4. The latter is identical to the white version, except for the paint job -- and as others have said, for some reason it's cheaper. I have the black one and it fits my 70-200/4 perfectly. I also have the (different) black ring for the 100 macro lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_wolfe Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Can someone confirm that the black ring will or will not work with the 70-200 f/4 lens? I was under the impression that the black ring worked ONLY with the f/2.8 lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 <I>Can someone confirm that the black ring will or will not work with the 70-200 f/4 lens? I was under the impression that the black ring worked ONLY with the f/2.8 lens.</i><P> Please read what I said in the immediately previous post to yours. And what Mike, and Bob, and Puppy Face said, which is this: <B>YES, the black 'A' ring DOES fit the 70-200/4 lens </b> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_wolfe Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Mark, Thanks for the succinct (if somewhat flippant) answer. I guess what confused me was the B&H link in Mike's response. In the B&H ad, it clearly says that the black ring is ONLY for the f/2.8 lens. Thanks for clearing that up. -ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 <P>Yeah! So far my black Tripod Ring A fits perfectly on the</P> <BLOCKQUOTE>EF 70-200 4L USM</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE>EF 80-200 2.8L</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE>EF 200 2.8L USM (original & II)</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE>EF 300 4L USM (original non-IS)</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE>EF 400 5.6L USM</BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I think it fits one or two more lenses but I have no personal experience with the other suspects.</P> Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_chappell Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Yes, Canon has a bit of a reputation for giving specifications that aren't completely accurate. One of the best known is a section in the instruction book for the supertelephoto IS lenses (300/2.8, 400/2.8, 500/4, 600/4) which stated explicitly that you needed to turn IS off for tripod use. In fact, these lenses have tripod 'sensors' that let IS work perfectly on tripods. In the same not-quite-correct tradition is that statement about the black A tripod ring only fitting the 200/2.8. I still have no clue why it's substantially cheaper than the 'white' verson.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_rowe Posted June 15, 2005 Author Share Posted June 15, 2005 Drats, I didn't buy the black one because of what Canon's specs say at B&H. The white one is $119 so I got the Bogen instead for $60. I would prefer the real thing of course but I got the remote switch and support this way for less then the (what I thought) mount costs. I will say though, supporting both the camera and lens makes for great support -- no worries about "contact" problems with this baby! --Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonnalos Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I like the black ring for the 70-200mm f/4 L. It's a good fit and to my eye it's more cosmetically pleasing. Sheldon<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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