david8 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 I was going to post an positive experience with canon service today, since so much posting is generally about problems and issues, but..... I sent out a 20D with focus problems to Canon, included a CD of images indicating the problem with various lenses and such. It was returned within a week, which impressed me to no end. Fab so far, but the problem still exists... no change at all. Ran a bunch of new test and always the same result, if not worse. Might anyone have an insight on how to insure a positive outcome, in as quick a time frame as psossible, with Canon's NJ factory service center? Thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_hansen2 Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 David - can you elaborate on the problem? Of course you have to consider that the service facility found nothing "wrong". Might you be expecting razor- sharp images right out of the camera, 'cause if you are, as Gomer Pyle used to say, surprise, surprise, surprise! You must apply some post-processing to get a boost in sharpness, or rather, perceived sharpness. Google this site for articles on "unsharp mask". As far as the service center, I found them to be exceptional in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david8 Posted June 8, 2005 Author Share Posted June 8, 2005 Thanks Charles And they did concure with the problem. Used L zooms and primes, high shutter speeds, and a tripod to document the problem as well as a manual focused image with each lens as a control..... way beyound the normal softness associated with digital images..... thanks Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Send it back with another letter and proof of the problem. They usually pay a bit more attention the second time around since they know they are likely to get it back AGAIN if they don't fix it. Without seeing your images in person and knowing exactly how they were shot, it's very hard to tell if your expectations are higher than Canon's specifications or if there really is a problem! When Canon return a repair there's usually a note in there saying what they found wrong and what they did to fix it. Was there any such note or did they just say "checked and found OK". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david8 Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 Thanks Bob... Attached screenshot from the EOS viewer indicating focus point. 85mm 1.8 on tripod with 1/2000 shutter, and 2.0 aperture. Focus point right on that high contrast edge. If my 20D understanding is correct, center focus point (which this is) should be hyper accurate with lenses 2.8 and wider. Let me know what you think Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_foiles2 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dave- If I may but in. In looking at your test photo I think I may know the problem. First, the edge you refer to does not strike me as high contrast or particularly distinct due to the shadow. The hand lettering seems to me as being a more high contrast target which brings me to point two. Part of the problem with all of the AF fuss is that I believe that the AF snesor actually sees a larger area than the box that you see. What I think has happened here is that the AF sensor locked on the highest contrast object in its view which is the lettering even though it is outside of the indicator box that "you" see. If I am right, your AF is dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david8 Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 Thanks Peter, I wish it were... tried under a number of scenarios, lenses and different tests set ups. There seems to have been a build up of the problem from the first use of the camera....perfect in the sense of my EOS film bodie, then a steady decline in focus during normal use (not tests set-ups). For a month, I watched my technique VERY carefully, assuming user error is generally the issue. But after watching good work being trashed due to focus errors, I started testing. Never had a problem with the eos bodies until now. I hate the idea of a precision camera body being fed-ex'ed again....and again Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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