Noctilux - What's Going On?

[paul_chan4]

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More than 10 participating bids. Last high bid was $2000. Item was pulled out

just hours before it ends. I was not any of the bidders but what is going on?

Comments?

[andy_piper2]

E*** sez the listing was pulled due to "an error" in the posted description.

 

Given that the seller lists this Noctilux as a "Zeiss wideangle" lens, that would seem to be an accurate explanation.

[35mmdelux]

this was pulled because the selling price was not high enough. The narrative/fotos clearly exlpains what was being sold.

[piotr_panne]

A high close is one thing; actually getting the money is another challenge. The guy down the street could have offered to buy it offering less hassle/fees - that happens here. He could have dropped it. Could have decided to keep it. Felt he wouldn\'t get enough for it.

[eliot_rosen1]

That's the thing about the bay. Sellers will pull items from ebay if they can sell the item to another buyer at a similar or higher price. You can't blame them, given the number of deadbeat bidders.

[blakley]

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/LEICA-CANON-50MM-F1-2-SCREWMOUNT-LENS-MINT-NOCTILUX_W0QQitemZ260009912273QQihZ016QQcategoryZ30039QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">This Mint f/1.2 Noctilux</a> - not made by Zeiss - is much cheaper, but <a href="http://www.keh.com/OnLineStore/ProductDetail.aspx">this one</a> (also not by Zeiss) is probably better.

[dave_powell2]

I must be out-of-touch with e*ay. I used to sell a lot there, and will start up again, now that I have a new computer that doesn't block access to my photo posting space! Maybe the "rules" have changed, but sellers weren't allowed to pull an item once it received its first bid...and definitely NOT because they don't like the bidding levels ('Reserve Prices' are designed to handle that).

 

Must have been quite an error!

 

--Dave

[roger_michel]

sellers have always been able to cancel auctions at will. you just have toclaim it's for one of the permissible reasons. and bidders have always been able to retract bids on the same basis.

[john_graham3]

One of the many reasons those of us who're used to dealing with legitimate auction houses have utter contempt for eBay.

[35mmdelux]

not really. I always require immediate payment. works like a charm.

 

Look at it this way: the guy decided to pull it. End of story.

[eliot_rosen1]

"Maybe the "rules" have changed, but sellers weren't allowed to pull an item once it received its first bid...and definitely NOT because they don't like the bidding levels ('Reserve Prices' are designed to handle that)."

 

This is very naive. Sellers do it all the time. Who would enforce this rule? The same people who monitor eBay listings for scammers? or counterfeit goods? The only guarantee from eBay is that they will take their cut. Otherwise, you're on your own.

[paul_neuthaler]

Stop crying, boys: it"s a tough world out there!

[kevin m.]

"One of the many reasons those of us who're used to dealing with legitimate auction houses

have utter contempt for eBay."

 

Given their meteoric rise in trading volume and stock price, I bet they lose alot of sleep over

you and your pals "utter contempt" ;-)

[paul_chan4]

My recollection of this auction -

1. it was list for a 10-day auction

2. about 15 bids were placed during that period

3. a last high bid of $2000 seems to reflect a fair price

4. it was pulled hours just before it was due to end

5. reason given 'there was an error in listing'.

The right to end the auction aside (no contention here), do the circumstances irresistibly lead to cast some doubts on the seller's honest integrity on his timing of pulling out the item? Not for a deadbeat bid in this case. Nor for any error in the listing. You make your own conclusion. Typically bidders are all taken for a roller-coaster ride. They all have to wait a little longer to add that elusive Noctilux in their camera bag.

[dan_chang]

I once had to pull an item off from *bay, because I accidentally dropped it when putting it back to storage box. So.........anything is possible!

[karl_keung]

i guess the seller must have found an adaptor to allow him to use the Noct on the latest Canon/Nikon digital SLR. :-)

[charles_stobbs3]

I once pulled a Leicflex SL case near the end because I had advertised it as in very good condition and then discovered that some of the stitching was deteriorating even though the leather was in very good condition. Didn't want to amend the description that late or wind up with bad feedback. Still have the case.

[piotr_panne]

Wow. You need a different image of the other guy on ebay. He\'s a fifty year-old fat guy with a Bud in his hand at 6am sitting naked on an upside-down bucket at his keyboard on a cardboard box in the middle of a sixty-foot dubbawide that\'s bare empty because his wife took off last week.

 

There\'s more honor at a truckstop.