davey h Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Hi guys i have started using Smart Sharpen in cs2 ok i set Amount to 300 Radius to 1.0 and Remove to Lens blur all ok so far on the preview on both main image and preview image but once i click ok and image has loaded the image goes back to looking the same as it did before. Is this normal? and has the final image (providing i have saved it) going to keep the sharpening settings. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean de merchant httpw Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Zoom in on the photo to see the result as you will not see much change at less than 100% with those settings and you should not be emailing full resolution shots. As to your chosen settings, they sound very aggressive to my eye. But I do not care for oversharpened shots. And other settings would be more appropriate for prints. some thoughts, Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvine Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Your settings sound good - I use the same except I use Gaussian Blur. Smart sharpen is great - especially if you use 20% 1.0 on the highlight tab to remove haloing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Zoom in about 200%, then go to Edit. By clicking Undo/Redo, you can toggle back and forth between the unsharpened/sharpened image. I think 300% amount is a little heavy - try 100%...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lheusinkveld Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 If I am reading your post correctly, you are saying that when you use smart sharpen the preview shows the sharpening, but once you hit OK the image reverts to its original non-sharpened state. This has been my experience with smart sharpen as well, and I recall a post a few months ago about this, so it seems we are not alone with this problem. A number of suggestions were made to solve the issue, but none of them worked for me. I now use other methods of sharpening. If anyone can suggest new solutions, I too would be interested to try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey h Posted July 16, 2006 Author Share Posted July 16, 2006 Yes Louise thats exactly what is happening "thought i was seeing things" even going back enlarging the image doesnt seem to of made any difference. If i try and smart sharpen again it looks to much in the preview window but nothing happens once i have pressed "ok" mmmmhh strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean de merchant httpw Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Ensure you do not have any layer masks interfering with things. Does this fail on every image? Is your image RGB? CMYK? LAB? 8-bit or 16-bit color? As to values, the discussion so far is rather immature and very magical. This is not meant as an insult, but instead to point out the question about values is highly dependent upon both the image at hand (landscape, cityscape, insect macro, portrait, ... and the texture of the content) and on the intended output(JPEG for the web/email, 200 DPI print, 300 DPI print, ...). If you want it simple, then take a look at http://www.thelightsrightstudio.com/TLRProfessionalSharpeningToolkit.htm and use the scripts. Please be aware sharpening is non-trivial activity and there is no magic bullet/formula for all images. enjoy, Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lheusinkveld Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 For me it fails with every image, whether 8 or 16 bit, and I work in Adobe RGB. I flatten and size to final print size before I sharpen for printing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_sokal___dallas__tx Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 David, I have the same experience and have been unable to find a solution here or on the Adobe message boards. What I did discover is that if you do go to a huge enlargement, you can actually see a very small effect, which is of no use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_1577653 Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I just started a new thread about this not having noticed this one just a couple entries down (arghh!). Anyway, I can add that I am struggling with this as well. In my case the degree of sharpening I see after pressing "ok" seems to vary, but it is usually more than "a little". Maybe more like 50% or so. I have tested this and it seems to happen no matter what. It occurs for both USM and Smart Sharpening. It doesn't matter whether using just a single (background) layer or a duplicate layer; it doesn't matter what blending mode is used if its a duplicate layer; and it doesn't matter whether its 8-bits or 16-bits. In short I've tried just about everything obvious I could think of. The strangest thing for me is that I am pretty sure it didn't behave this way originally (although I could be wrong - maybe I just didn't notice it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey h Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 Hi i to think it used to work but have checked and double checked settings and all kind of variations. it will do the same in 8 or 16 bit the picture looks really good before i press the "ok" button then the image goes back to it's original state thanks guys to all those who have shared their knoledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_c Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 After trying some of the suggestions here and in the other thread, I failed to make it work. So did some experimenting of my own and found a solution. You need to set in edit/preferences/memory and image cache cache level to 1 Close and reload PS The problem might be related to the use of real memory because the higher the cache level, the more memory is used. Anyway - worked for me, post here if it helps Costas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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