g_canazzi Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Did you ever wonder why Canon picks the model numbers for its cameras like they do? Starting around 1970 with SLR film cameras things seemed simpler and more sensible. You basically had the F-1 and FTb; A-1, AE-1, and AE-1 Program; EOS-1V, EOS-3, and EOS-1HS (High Speed). When Canon went digital they started out fine with their D30 and D60. "D" for Digital - I get that, and 30 for 3 mega-pixels and 60 for 6 mega-pixels. Then came the 10D (6mp), 20D (8mp), and 30D (also 8mp). Don't get the 30D confused with the D30 of 6 years ago. Add into that mix the 5D (12mp), which came out after the 10D, 20D, and 30D. Canon also has their flagship line starting with the 1D (4mp), 1D-mkII (8mp), 1DS (11mp), 1DS-mkII (16mp) and 1D-mkIIN (8mp). I feel sorry for you if you work in a camera store and get that phone call. One idea may be that they name their cameras by the mega-pixels and have a variation number depending on their upgrades. It might look like this: 10D = 6D: 20D = 8D: 30D = 8D-2: 5D = 12D. The 1D line could now be converted to "P" for Premium or Pro.1D = P4D (now discontinued): 1DS = P11D: 1D-mkII = P8D: 1D-mkIIN = P8D-2: 1DS-mkII = P16D. The Rebel's and Elan's could use a similar numbering system also, at least they have a name on them to set them apart. I haven't even touched on the European models that are the same camera with different numbers on them. Let me say that I have owned Canon since the mid-70's and their site on their full history of their camera line is quite interesting as is their R&D. You can check it out at http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/ Canon does listen well to their customers so maybe someday we will see some sense to their numbering system. Please take this with the humor in which it was written. Your thoughts and comments are welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_lai Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 To add to the confusion, Canon also likes to reuse their model names. For example, there were 3 (or more?) models of the F-1 and at least 2 completely different cameras called the A-1. Perhaps they should have model years like cars to differentiate the models. I bought a S2 IS recently, but there's also the S-II made after WWII and the II S2 and probably others I don't know about. Interested in the Canon EF (the FD-mount body)? Try a search on ebay and you'll end up with tons of listings for lenses instead. Maybe that's it, this is Canon's ingenious method of forcing old camera aficionadoes like me to look at their new stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 For the DSLRs and most SLRs the convention seems easy: 1-digit numbers for their pro line. The small the number the better the camera. 2-digit numbers for their semi-pro/prosumer cameras, where the larger the number the better the camera. 3-digit numbers for the purely consumer cameras, again the higher the number the better the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_kriete Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 While I agree that the current model numbering can be confusing, I don't think your examples of "the old way" are any clearer. There's nothing self-evident (to me at least) about the difference between an F-1 and FTb. I don't have any trouble keeping the different digital models straight (though I notice many people do), which makes me think confusion is a function more of familiarity than of an actual problem with the naming scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean de merchant httpw Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Canon's naming predate megapixels. Hence, why should their names reflect megapixels? Ken already noted where the numbers come from and that numbering scheme eradicates confusion for me while retaining consistency with their celluloid based sensor models. I suspect the shift from D30 and D60 to 10D came about due to Nikon's D100 and wanting unique names. But this is pure congecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovcom_photo Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 It's just a name....like Shakespear wrote: "A Rose by any other name, would smell as sweet...". I'm not sure why their naming conventions need to make sense, nor do I worry about it. A 1D Mark II, by any other name, would shoot as sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praveen murthy Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Why not just name them "bob", "steve", "wanda" etc. Well, since they are Japanese, "Tadahiro", "Tsuneo", and so on. Like hurricanes, you can really anthropomorphize your cameras then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Ken said it! You want to talk about silly names? Try memorizing the names for Apple OSX...it's a real "zoo"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Number names suk--too impersonal and smack of car and airplace names. I'd rather have real names: Elan, Rebel, Kiss, etc. Japanese girlie names would be way cool, e.g., Akiko MK II, Chizuko D, Mariko DN, etc. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillan k Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Yeah, I'm with you on that one, Puppy! I want my next camera to be a Canon Yuko D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfimages Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Canon Hello Kitty, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormegil Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Waiting on the "Canon Kerokerokeroppi Mark IIN" I also hate how car names have gone alphanumeric. The idea is to keep the brand name prominent. Probably the same with Cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jespdj Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Why should Canon name their models after the number of megapixels? (6D, 8D, 8D-2, 12D, ...) As if the number of megapixels is the most important feature of a camera! (it is not!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_holland Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I find the added complexity of duplicate names for the same product sold in another country to be most annoying. A sexy name without the flash of model numbers would be better and more recognizable. By the way, Gary, you left a space in your link to the canon website, just before the word 'museum' which disables the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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