ben z Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Right now we're on the road (well not right now, obviously I'm stillin the motel using my laptop) back up north for the summer, as soon aswe get home and unpack and pick up the other car which we shipped,we're off to Paris. So while we've been driving I've been mullingover what photo stuff I'm taking overseas (I don't normally give itthat much thought but I-75 is b-o-r-i-n-g). Normally I will bring myMP, M6 and 3-4 lenses and that's that. However since it's Paris, I'vebeen talking about just taking either the screwmount or M3 with the50mm or just my Rollei TLR. My wife says "if you want to pretendyou're HCB or Doisneau you can pretend Cleveland is Paris, too, so dothat when we get home but please take your usual cameras on the tripso we'll have some decent photos to show from Paris". So, do youthink she's got it pegged and is taking just a standard lens a recipefor disaster? BTW, any Parisian forumers want to meet for un cafe? (been practicingmy high-school French with my neighbor who's from there, some of it'sactually coming back to me, I'm amazed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_zet Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 15/35/90 and listen to your wife:-) otherwise i would take a 28 with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_furer Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 For street photography, I find that I can make do with the 35mm lens, which, if used properly, shows very little distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 One camera- one lens. Then let the wife carry the other stuff just in case. Marriage is compromise. So compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gib Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 if only one lens, then a 35, but.... a CV 24 might be the kind of wide angle that would work well in the confines of some Paris street situations. when I have travelled with forgive me, an SLR of the non-leica kind, the bread and butter lens was a 28-80, and most shots were 28-35 and some at the 80 end. have a great trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence_bochkis Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Are you worried about pick-pockets? If you're just worried about saving space, take a standard and a wide, and you'll be good to go. Paris isnt' a city where telephoto is needed. As far as pick-pockets go in any European city frequented by gaggles of tourists, it's pretty easy to not be a target. The biggest piece of advice is to look like you know what you're doing, and not speak English. Keep your camera strapped to your hand, rather than hanging off your neck, and avoid getting bumped by people. The most common pick-pocket technique these days is when you're getting on/off a bus or train, etc. for people to all of the sudden crowd you, and disorient you. Anytime you feel bumped and surrounded, you're being picked. Pick-pockets find the easy targets, not the ones that have the best gear. If your camera is in your hand, people won't pay as much attention to it, and they will also know that you are paying more attention too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I've done Paris (and France) with just a 35mm lens (Olympus XA). Happy with those results. My feeling is when you want something wider than a 35mm in Paris, you need a view camera. But it sure would be a tempting place to use a good Summar! The idea of a Summar as a travel lens (on a screwmount camera) is tempting. With 400 film, you can take sharp contrasty pictures outside, and dreamy pictures inside in low light. You might want a ND filter handy with a Summar, as it only stops down to f:12.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Your wife has a good point. Take your "normal" equipment, the one that you're really comfortable with, with a decent assortment of lenses (not every single one, just a good range). Keep the "one camera - one lens" techniques for places that you're familiar with, and where you can come back easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 ...and you can 'blame' your wife: go out and buy the 28-35-50 lens for the trip. One camera, one lens. Simple, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Another compromise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 i'd have a harder time deciding which film gets stuck in the camera. provia or fp4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorn ake Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Take the Rollei. Paris is romantic & you are going with your wife. The Rollei will be a nice part of this. Slow and atmospheric. Plus a TLR is total stealth - everyone thinks you are trying to fix your camera, not trying to take their photograph. To heck with those speed demon Leicas! And if your wife is like my wife, she will say that she prefers the medium format shots given the choice, especially once they are printed up on nice paper. "They look like real photographs" she says, "not snapshots." Zoot-A-Lors! See S. Liu's shots on the Classic Camera forum to see what she means. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CCma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billc1 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 How about a tri-elmar for just 1 lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulstenquist Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Paris, one lens (50/2 Summicron Collapsible), one camera (IIIf RD), one day: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=311283 It was fun. Try it. You'll like it. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_theken Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Hello Ben:When traveling, I always bring a .58 M6TTL with a 35 Summmicron. Many times I also bring a 50 Summicron or Summilux and sometimes a second body (MP, M7 or M6 with .72 viewfinder) if I want to use more than one type of film. On trips when I plan to photograph inside bars, cathedrals, homes, etc., I bring a CV 21 4.0. The entire outfit is very compact and easy to carry around all day.Bon voyage!Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Leave your Leicas and Hassys at home. Invest in a Fed 2 with a good Industar lens and a Jupiter 11. The whole outfit will cost not much more than an 'C' note. Take your Rollei if you think you will want impersonal shots but dont go around carrying multiple cameras. Avoid the appearance of a 'street' photographer. Don't dress or act like a tourist - blend in with the populace. If you speak good French so much the better, but avoid 'fractured French' that will just mark you as another potential patsy. Keep your pockets free of anything of value and secure your personal ID and credit cards inside your clothing. French pickpockets are the worlds most accomplished and almost magicians when it comes to removing valuables. Other than that, enjoy yourself. Paris is an experience you don't want to miss or have ruined by a bad experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricks Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 MP, 35mm lens and a couple of roll in your pockets. be there. best advice for Paris: do only one museum/myst-see-activity per day, spend the other half of the day strolling, sitting at a cafe, taking in the scenes/life. forget about photography and focus on your wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bda Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Ben, I live in Paris and subscribe 100% to what Laurence says about pickpocket techniques. I often roam the city, including areas with lots of tourists and also most probably pickpockets. I keep my M7 straped around my wrist, and hide the two in a Domke-like bag hanging from the shoulder. I always have the camera in hand and bringing it to eye level is very quick, yet my look remains 'low-profile'. Or so I believe ;-) I'll be glad to meet you at a café, if I am around. Send me an email with details on where and when you intend to be. Bertrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmdelux Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Its not just about the camera, if it were, then all us Leica shooters would be big winners. Its MORE about the photog. Hence, 1 camera, 1 lens and enjoy the trip - maybe a super WA in side pocket. Give La Jaconda my regards.........best PAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m. Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 <i>'Take your Rollei if you think you will want impersonal shots'</i><p> Whilst I don't doubt your knowledge, I don't think that I understand this comment since the Rollei is one of the best cameras going for the capture of personal shots, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamshooter Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 For what it's worth, I went to Paris with an M3, 50mm lens, and a hand held meter. They were the best photos I ever took of Paris. I had visited Paris a few months before with a G2 and 3 lens outfit, but my style of shooting was not as spontaneous. "Do I shoot the Eiffel with the 28mm or 45mm... etc." In theory the more lenses you have the more options you have for photographs, but keeping it simple improved my photography a lot. Oh, and my wife is now the owner of the G2, and she loves having options when she takes a picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorn ake Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Oh lordy - be vigilant but don't freak out about the chance of getting pickpocketed. There is no way you are going to look like anything other than a tourist unless you speak perfect French and you were born raised and live in Paris. Be who you are - a tourist. The Parisians are used to this by now. They get a lot of them, so you won't be the first. Just be nice, solicitous and remember that you are another country with different customs that are not strange or weird or whatever. Everything just is what it is. And take your most expensive camera, hang it around your neck when you are using it & in a non-camera bag when you aren't. Above all, take lots of photographs. If you get your camera stolen, file with your insurance when you get home. You do have insurance don't you? I still say take the Rollei, not because the Leica might get stolen, but how many people do you know are taking 6x6 vacation photos anymore? Why should your photos look like the gadzillion taken this year alone? 120 film is routinely available in France, so you don't even have to take more than a handful - some 100, some 400, B&W, color. Don't take transparency because then you actually have to meter accurately - just print so you can screw up and still get something workable. Remember your wife's request. HAVE A LOT OF FUN! Paris is well, Paris. There is only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_wright1 Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 The lens I used most on my last trip was a VC 25. If not that a 28 for sure. I carried my 21 and got good use for interiors. A wide angle town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 During the past I sometimes tried to travel with just a standart lens - 75mm on Super Isolette. I must confess it doesn't work well for me. I can take a decent picture now and then but most times I say damn; no chance. Be happy to have a wife caring about your photography and don't let her down. You have the expensive toys and she 's got neighbours to impress with the output. A day isn't long and Paris should be worth a few rolls, so try to take the chance. Among photographers you are free to seek any imaginable challenge, but among ordinary people you should proove that you're able to bring something home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 MP + 35mm is all you need. All the above is good advice. Have fun and you'll take better photographs. Less is more. David Alan Harvey gets his great pictures because he spends time with the local people, drinks a beer or two with them, and generally tries to relate as well as he can to them. He has his M6 + 35mm with him and takes pictures of his new found friends and acquaintenances. The way he works they barely notice that he's taking pictures. His work has nothing to do with a bunch of cameras and a bunch of lenses. It has to do with a human relating to another human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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