chuck Posted August 17, 2000 Share Posted August 17, 2000 What's the configuration of each AF sensor? Are any or all of them sensitive to both vertical and horizontal patterns? Is it:<p> - <p> | | + | |<p> - <p> Or is it<p> +<p> + + + + +<p> +<p> Or it is something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_barry Posted August 17, 2000 Share Posted August 17, 2000 : From the picture, it appears to have a white AF assist beam in : place of the excellent near-IR beam on the 5 and 50. If that is so, : it is a step backwards. If there are 4 buttons on the back (a la : Nikon F100, F5) then I hope it still has the rear command dial? : : -- Salman Akhtar (salmanakhtar@juno.com), August 13, 2000. <p> I'm almost willing to bet that the AF-assist beam is now truly infrared. I would doubt that Canon has switched to a fully visible (white) beam (though I could certainly be wrong). A lot of times IR beams now just have a clear LED and shield. That would be fantastic. No more lighting up a dark room just to get the focus. Any word on this, Colin? Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin_miller3 Posted August 17, 2000 Author Share Posted August 17, 2000 The new BP-300 does have a vertical AE lock button. I can't recall if it has a control dial or not.<P> As for the sensitvity of the sensors, he told me and told me very quickly. I was still drooling on the camera, and I didn't hear him clearly as we were next to the motor at the back of the bus. I recall it was better than the Elan IIe, though. Whatever help that is.<P> And I for sure didn't ask about the AF assist beam. Not exactly at the top of my list. If I had known al the questions to ask, I would have made a list. I didn't even know they would have the camera there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilhelm Posted August 17, 2000 Share Posted August 17, 2000 So far I have seen no reason to switch from my Elan (one), and this doesn't seem any different. I am, however, interested in the 28-90 lens. How does its size and weight compare with the excellent 28-105? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_mccormack Posted August 17, 2000 Share Posted August 17, 2000 Re: "420EX replaces 380EX and adds about 20 feet of GN and is a receiver flash for wirelss from EOS-3 and Elan 7e." <p> Latest news indicates that the 420EX does not have manual flash controls but does have tilt AND swivel capability. <p> Re: "Whisper Drive." <p> Latest news from one source says the 7 is quieter than the A2/A2E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konstantin_korotkov Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 Check it out, guys! B&H just posted prices on new Elan 7/7e/7eQD. Any �sticker shock�? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_hutcheson Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 I'm surprised B&H has prices posted before they have it in stock, or even before Canon's official announcement. After looking at the features, I'll probably end up with an EOS 3, but I want to know more about the 420EX. No price on that yet at B&H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johanberglund Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 The 28-90 zoom replaces the 28-80/3.5-5.6 USM zoom, and is comparable to that one in terms of weight and construction (micro-USM, no FTM). There will according to Henry Posner of B&H Photo be an updated version (cosmetically) of the 28-105/3.5-4.5 USM and a new 28-200/3.5- 5.6 USM (micro-USM, no FTM) released too the 24th of August. <p> Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_long Posted August 20, 2000 Share Posted August 20, 2000 I had a little hands on experience with the Elan 7 last week. The autofocus sensors are arranged in a diamond pattern. 5 of them spread out horizontally, and one above and one below the middle one. I really liked the feel of the camera and the only thing I wish it had was a true spot meter....but since I have a Minolta Spot F for my Bronica....I can live without it. I will be getting one as soon as the store I work at gets them in stock (no not just because its the new thing but because I don't currently have a 35mm SLR and this one fits my budget) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_kekewich Posted August 21, 2000 Share Posted August 21, 2000 Re. #$%^$&**& SPOT METERING LACKING <p> I have the Elan IIe on which I use a Tamron 28-200mm lens. Here's my answer to the need for a true spot meter: <p> Considering Canon's AIM system, you are metering around the focusing point of your choice. In partial mode, that's 9.5% of the area around that focusing point. Now, at 200mm focal length, the Elan is "seeing" an angle of view of 12 degrees. <p> Does it not follow then, that I am metering an area that is 9.5% of a twelve degree angle of view, which would equate to a spot meter's angle of acceptance of about one degree? (12 degrees times 9.5% = 1.14 degree). <p> Would love to know if I've got this one right or not! <p> Thanks, <p> Roy Kekewich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msitaraman Posted August 22, 2000 Share Posted August 22, 2000 Not true, Roy. <p> That is because the 9.5% refers to the proportion of the total area of the image not its linear dimension, which 12 degrees would be a proxy for. <p> Something that is measuring 1 degree of your 12 degrees is measuring an area 1/(12x12) or 1/144 of the picture area i.e. a less than 1% spot meter. <p> At 200 mm extension, a 9.5% spot area is roughly speaking, 1/3x1/3 of the picture area or about a 4 degree spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_mccormack Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 See the Canon press release on 8/23/00 for the Elan 7 athttp://www.businesswire.com/industryspecific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_merrill Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 It took a while to find the Elan 7 press release using the URL in John McCormack's post (eventually had to search on that site), so I offer this alternative:http://sf-web1.businesswire.com/cgi-bin/f_headline.cgi?bw.082300/202362369&ticker=CANNY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_merrill Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 A companion press release covering the new 420EX flash is also available:http://sf-web1.businesswire.com/webbox/bw.082300/202360278.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_merrill Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 Well sheesh! The URL's I just sent won't actually work. Sorry. (I copied from the navigation bar and pasted, but I had loaded from a frame...). Anyway... I got the press releases by searching for "Canon" at the URL that John McCormack posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_arnott Posted August 24, 2000 Share Posted August 24, 2000 Try this link <a href="http://www.usa.canon.com/camcambin/cameras/35mm/slr/elan7_index.html">http://www.usa.canon.com/camcambin/cameras/35mm/slr/elan7_index.html</a>. Looks to be an interesting source for info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Metal top and front plates in a $500 AF camera, focus rocker switch like in Nikon, hmmmm, impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Any idea what the X-sync speed is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey_s._kane3 Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 Chuck, everything I've read says x-synch=1/125 sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolos_koumoulis Posted August 26, 2000 Share Posted August 26, 2000 Any idea as to when the Ela7 will be releesed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dez_. Posted August 26, 2000 Share Posted August 26, 2000 David Letterman's top 3 reasons to buy an A2/e over new Elan 7/E. <p> #1. No spot metering. <p> #2. They did away w/ excellent infrared focus assit, in turn for a stupid and annoying pulsating built in flash.(same system on the Rebel 2000) <p> #3. No spot metering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dez_. Posted August 26, 2000 Share Posted August 26, 2000 Well Just as I wrote the nasty letter above, the promo pack for the elan 7 came(I work at a photo lab). I must admit it does sound pretty good. I can confirm the above posts about the new flash, 28-200,and 28-90 lenses. All the other above info is correct about the camera. The focus tracking abilities are excellent as well. I can deal w/ the 1 fps loss over the A2/e no biggie.A good trade for better focus tracking. There are excellent custom functions, even one for the annoying focus assist technique. I can get the body dealer cost/employee purchase for $413 however, you others drooling over it will pay about $469-500$(B+H).Local prices for where you live will be a little more. My A2 is on it's last leg, what a wonderful excuse to buy one !! <p> I included a little eye-candy for you to drool over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apostolos_koumoulis Posted August 27, 2000 Share Posted August 27, 2000 The Elan 7 is not listed anymore on B&H.Is that a sign that the release date will be delayed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tj_sullivan Posted August 28, 2000 Share Posted August 28, 2000 Does anyone know if the elan 7 will focus at f8 instead of being limited to f5.6 as the elan II is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin_miller3 Posted August 28, 2000 Author Share Posted August 28, 2000 >Does anyone know if the elan 7 will focus at f8 instead of being limited to f5.6 as the elan II is? <p> -- TJ Sullivan <p> Patience grasshopper...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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