franco14 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hello Folks! I just received my Rebel Xti purchased from amphotoworld and surprisingly when I opened it it was the japan version Kiss Digital X. Also the sales guy asked me about what battery I wanted because the body only camera did not come with battery. I told him I had the batteries and another surprise, the camera came with a battery and the charger. Also there was no warranty card with the camera. Mm this smells bad, I write the customer service of the company, will keep you updated of their answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pto189 Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 A&M Photo World is another online name of Broadway Photo. We all knew except you. You'll have to keep your camera without warranty. If you return the camera, it'll take a very long time to see your money back. Check <a href="http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1995.html">here</a> for their rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Ah...but, you got it cheap right? ;p IF someting sounds too good to be true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 The Kiss is identical to the Rebel save the name. In Japan this camera is marketed to women hence the cute name. In North America they're trying to appeal to the outlaw vibe of the wild West I guess. If they gave you a good price you should cut your losses now and be glad it didn't come with red lips and a Hello Kitty bag. You did want an unreasonably large discount right? A price below the whole net of your local dealer I bet. Places like this depend on ignorance and greed to reel in suckers. You purchased from an outfit with one of the worst reputations in the industry. Returns and refunds are extremely difficult as is getting in contact with customer service. Once you get them on the phone--they'll never answer an email--they'll probably extract more money and/or grief from you. MAybe even curse you or hang up if you get demanding. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 If you buy from slime ball camera stores, this is what you get. If you deal with legitimate stores (like B&H, Adorama, and a few others), you get what you pay for without this type of bull s**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavel_olavich Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Efrain, don't feel too bad....I too got stung by those guys many years ago....big ordeal, shouting, incriminations, calls to American Express, they treatening to ruin my credit, all kinds of slimmy stuff, in the end justince prevailed but what a hassle....this must have been 1999/2000 or so...PuppyFace has it...just keep the kit and be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyunyu Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 You'd better check with your credit card company to see if you got charged "extra" for the battery and the charger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neild Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Just think of how original you'll look walking down the street! People will want one, but the won't be able to find them - you'll be one of a kind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken munn Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Keep quiet and buy a small can of black paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandern Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Honestly, if the camera was not mis-represented to you at sale time (i.e. they didn't tell you it was a US market camera with battery and charger, etc.), you're stuck with it- like any other "deal" that's too good to be true, you should actually investigate before pulling the trigger. If, however, they did mislead you at the time of sale, you should immediately contact your credit card company and reverse charges for the transaction. Most credit card companies are extremely good about this, and will provisionally reverse charges with merely a phone conversation. You'll then be required to send the item(s) back to the seller via an insured delivery method with delivery confirmation, and fill out a form for your credit card company detailing the issues with the original transaction. Many check or debit cards with the MasterCard or Visa logo also provide this consumer protection. The credit card companies have little incentive to kneel under to the negligible pressure that a small, corrupt retailer can exert, so you have little to fear about a protracted war with the retailer. I will also note that if the retailer provides you with no valid physical address to return the goods, in general your obligation is merely to make a good-faith effort to obtain that address and return the goods. If they refuse to provide you with an address, the onus normally falls upon them to initiate the return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 "The credit card companies have little incentive to kneel under to the negligible pressure that a small, corrupt retailer can exert, so you have little to fear about a protracted war with the retailer." Now that's not always true. I had a similar situation that dragged on for about a year. After I reversed the charge and returned the item, I was charged multiple times for shipping. $120 for a lens shipped UPS Blue! In those days it actually cost $15-20. I did learn my lesson and that was before the Seller Rating site days. Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 You got screwed by one of the oldest scam companies in the business. I would be careful with them - they are also involved with a certain ethnic Mafia (not Italian). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_christiansen Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 You know... A lot of pros (and amateurs alike) "black-tape" their gear. They cover all brand names, model numbers with black electrical tape. You can see James Nachtwey has done this in War Photographer. Why don't you just cover the brand name and model number with tape? Cut it to shape, and it'll look like it was meant to be there. If you don't like the tape solution, you might as well go with the pink Hello Kitty sachel as someone else suggested... ;-) And for the smell: I bet ordinary household cleaner (one of the citrus or pine oil based ones) would take care of it. Use warm water and as mild a cleaner as you can get away with. Soak a rag in the water/cleaner solution, wring it thoroughly, and wipe off the gear. Be careful around electrical contacts and openings. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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