thomas_majevszky Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 did anybody notice this one: http://www.leica-camera.de/photography/m_system/lenses/1193.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Yep. It should solve the problem of how to shoot wide-angle with the reduced-size sensor. The 16, 18, and 21mm focal lengths will provide the equivalent of 21, 24, and 28mm. Thus the Leica photographer will not have to adjust to unfamiliar fields of view. Great idea, and it seems they did it in a short time frame, for such a complex lens. Doubtless the experience gained with the 28/35/50 model helped a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Still hoping there will eventually be a prime f/2.8 in the 15-18mm range. But yes, this is a slick design to cover both the folks who like "21mm" and those who like "24mm", while only producing one lens on a tight deadline. And from the long barrel it looks like it has some digital optimization in the design. Before everyone asks: YES, IT CAN BE USED ON FILM CAMERAS, or a full-frame sensor (if and when) YES. YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 about time. should have made this, and more covering other focal lengths, years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Andy, I can understand your enthusiasm, but I don't have access to the electronic peripherals other than third party's to process my images in the third world. If I were home based, I'd certainly buy an M8, as I prefer the RF way of shooting. I prefer W/A close shooting. But, if I were a nature or sports photograper, I'd choose Canon w/IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I now see my post is mis-interpretted by myself and OT. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_larese1 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 It's $3,500 U.S. I fold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_neuthaler Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 1:2.8?, 1:4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyaitken Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 f4 alas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinay_patel Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 So far of the reviews of the M8 only one has had the lack of judgment to post images from the admittedly pre-production firmware and comment on the bad noise at ISO 1200 and 2500. But if the production firmware doesn't look much better then the wide Tri-Elmar is probably going to be saddled with the same objections to the f/4 as the current Tri-Elmar, plus the lack of depth control made worse by the cropped sensor. Nonetheless it will sell well, I predict, because it fills a need with the M8 like no other LEICA lens can, and offers M film users 2 wide focal lenths also unavailable in a LEICA lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip l. Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 > It's $3,500 U.S. I fold... I believe that price is for the "kit" with the new wide angle finder. If so, then not a bad deal IMO. Also with the US$ being in the tank, we might not be paying some of these high prices. > So far of the reviews of the M8 only one has had the lack of judgment to post images from the admittedly pre-production firmware and comment on the bad noise at ISO 1200 and 2500. But if the production firmware doesn't look much better then the wide Tri-Elmar is probably going to be saddled with the same objections to the f/4 as the current Tri-Elmar, plus the lack of depth control made worse by the cropped sensor. Nonetheless it will sell well, I predict, because it fills a need with the M8 like no other LEICA lens can, and offers M film users 2 wide focal lenths also unavailable in a LEICA lens. Hopefully noise will not be as bad as we have been hearing in the end. But lets face it, the T-E and the T-E Wide are not meant to be low light lenses.They make great travel and PJ lenses IMO. For DOF work, we can only hope for a Leica or CV 24/2.0 and an 18/2.8. But in the end we are faced with what photography has faced since the beginning - the cry of change. I am sure that there were those that moaned about the loss of quality of moving from 8x10 to 4x5 to MF and to 35mm. Each with its own thoughts about FOV and perspective and quality of the final image. This is made harder today by the sheer numbers of photographers that grew up knowing 35mm as the "only" format of choice. Most of us know how our choice of lenses work in 35mm - increased DOF and perspective changes challenge us. If the new Kodak sensor is the Holy Grail for decent sharpness and vignetting control at it seems; we may see 35mm FF sensor cameras in the near future that will allow the "faithful" everything they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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