john_campanelli1 Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Is there a digital camera in the $500-800 range that can do almost everything most people do with cameras? I know that everyone is going to ask what kind of pictures do you like to take and those kind of questions. I am just curious if there is a camera out there that has it all, or almost all. What camera in that price range would you want if it was the only camera in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waltz Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Sony F828 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_phan Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 That's practically an unanswerable question. Even amongst Swiss Army Knives, there are many different versions and models to choose from. And even amongst compact multi-tools, there are many different brands to choose from, with their own variations, options, and models to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Another vote for the sony (f707/717/828). Excellent quality. Laser-assist (not a blinding artificial sun LED) autofocus, nightshot, IR, and macro modes. All in a nice package. Was my street photography cam for 3 years. I miss it's ergonomics and utility. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sl attanapola Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Kevn Phan is right on this one! However for me the Optio 450/550/555/750 fits the bill. Small pocketable cameras with a 5X zoom and loads of user control(not crippled like some cameras!). Excellent battery life and pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majid Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Yes, the Canon Digital Rebel, and the Digital Rebel XT will soon be in that price range, as well as the upcoming Nikon D50. You get a DSLR with the flexibility to change lenses such as real macro lenses or real wide-angles, a real viewfinder, and the large sensor is usable at ISO 800-1600 where the tiny sensor on the so-called prosumer cams is hopelessly noisy above ISO 100. Shutter lag time and burst speeds are also significantly better. The Rebel XT is tiny, not much bigger than the current crop of 8MP point-and-shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstrutz Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 For me it's a Panasonic FZ3. But I'm glad it's not my only camera, just like I'm glad I'm not stuck using Swiss Army Knife for every task. Besides, a Leatherman is better than a SAK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_williams2 Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 KM DiMAGE A2 was my answer to the question. I bought one just over a year ago and haven't regretted it. It's very versatile and makes excellent quality pics if you drive it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertdarmali Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Agree with the Panasonic FZ series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 A Swiss Army Knife with just a single blade? = $10 Or one with 66 different tools and a butane lighter? = $100 In the $500-800 range you'll get a camera with 2 blades, can opener, cork screw, tweezer and toothpick. If you like 66 tools and a butane lighter try the Nikon D2X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Almost every camera maker has a few models that could qualify for this. But, just as with Swiss Army Knives, some of these capabilities are more novelty than utilitarian. I consider the knife part of the Swiss Army Knife the least useful because the blade doesn't lock back, making it rather dangerous to use unless great care is exercised. But the corkscrew, little scissors and various screwdriver tips are cool. My Olympus C-3040Z can do a lot of things, tho' not all of them well. Photo quality is fairly good, tho' the sensor is too noisy above ISO 100. It makes amusing little mpegs with sound. Kids enjoy the immediate feedback at birthday parties. It's very well made tho' a bit bulkier than I'd like. Just like some Swiss Army Knives. If I could have it all in one package it would be the size of the Canon Digital Elph or Casio Exilim. It would take good 6 mp or better photos with truly low noise up to ISO 1600. It would take good quality 480x640 mpegs with sound. It would double as a voice recorder. It would have night vision. It would shoot laser beams into the eyes of mine enemies and smite them. It would remind me of appointments. It would have a reliable, completely voice operated cell phone. GPS. The chimping screen should be able to display driving maps since I have no sense of direction. It would check my e-mail but not have a web browser - I need a break from the web, not more access to it. It would alert me to the presence of dropped money on the ground - change and bills. It would be a voice activated universal remote control for everything. It would let me turn off police radar as I approached. It would tap into any surveillance system within 100 yards of me and display it on the chimping screen so I can know who's watching. It would emit a painful, ear piercing wail into the ears of telemarketers. It would have universal wireless connectivity so that I could change people's screen savers and what's on the giant display screens in Times Square. It would translate Vietnamese and Thai menus. It would feed my pets when I'm gone. I don't want much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_photo Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Another vote for the Sony 828. You can get a refurbished one at a Sony outlet store for about $699. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanthree Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 A year ago I wouldn't have believed it, but I vote for the Sony 828. Truly an amazing picture making machine. Good AF, nice zoom range, lots of resolution, laser-assist AF, built-in infrared, "night-framing" for dark rooms, and a truly useful video mode. It's a nice all-in-one package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_d5 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Sony f-828. It's basically can do everything. Drawbacks, a lot of noise of iso beyond 100. Not much depth of field, so isolation of subject is not very good. But, man, the lens is VERY SHARP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune_gitane Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 add one vote for the A2 anti shake IS is great, nice focal range and lens, shoots raw, best EVF ever, so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrypittman Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 another vote for the Panasonic FZ series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_phan Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 <i>Sony f-828. It's basically can do everything. Drawbacks, a lot of noise of iso beyond 100. Not much depth of field, so isolation of subject is not very good.</i> <p> Isn't it a bit odd to say that a camera can do basically "everything" but has noise beyond ISO 100 (!) and has poor subject isolation? For a lot of people like myself who regularly shoot existing light at ISO's of 400, 800 and even 1600, and feel that subject isolation can either make or break a picture, this is definitely not a camera that "basically can do everything", and it clearly shows that you're going to be making a lot of compromises when going for a "Swiss Army Knife" of digital cameras. It just comes down to the one point you mentioned in your original post that you tried to avoid: what kind of pictures do you like to take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_d5 Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Let's see. For around 500 to 800 dollars price range. Including lens. The camera includes, sharp 28-200mm lens f.2-2.8, that can do macro also. Night vision capability. Laser focusing for dim light. Video capability(only limited by your CF or memory sticks space). It is "Swiss Army Knife", it doesn't mean specific tool. You can buy a top end pliers or screwdrivers. But, a swiss army knife is just a handy tool to have around. It won't replace the tool. But, can be handy when needed. Hence, the term "Swiss Army knife." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_d5 Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Of course, I am talking about the Sony F-828. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanthree Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Peter, The Sony doesn't have lots of noise beyond 100. Up to 400, if you use something like Neat Image, it's very usable. At 200, it's good. Below 200 there's no issue. Hell, every camera has drawbacks. When you find the perfect camera, look me up. I'll buy us each a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 And with the f828 you can shoot true handheld IR, which none of the others can do<BR><P> <center> <img src= "http://pages.sbcglobal.net/b-evans/Images9/IR_Web/image/mantree.jpg"> </center> www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale_golerki Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 I have a ricoh digicam, the caplio GX. It's my swiss army camera. It has a high sensitivity night mode(LCD illuminates the darkness), and a B&W (not grayscale) OCR text copying mode. A straight audio recorder mode, that can record live music or voice, and the movie mode, and even has a number of useful still camera modes, including manual! Has a hot shoe. Does macro focus down to 1cm, has 28mm-85mm equivalent wide angle. Superfast AF and low shutter lag. It'll do whatever I need it to do. And like a Swiss Army Knife, it fits in my pocket. Not the greatest at anything, but always available, and quite capable. Geez, if I didn't have a better camera, I'd use this all the time! ;>) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_johnston Posted April 9, 2005 Share Posted April 9, 2005 Canon G6. Fast lens, high res, small form-factor, good range of focal lengths, great ergonomics, uses CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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