User_2019667 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I recently acquired a great used Nikon F3 and I am wodering what kind of lenses I should get for it. Do I need to use manual focus or can I also use AF lenses? I would appreciate your advise. Thank you John Pender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 You can use manual-focus AI or AI-S type lenses as well as AF lenses except for the recent G type that has no aperture ring. With G lenses, you have no way to control the aperture on the F3 and will be stuck at that lens' minimum aperture. Pre-AI (1977) lenses need to be modified to AI before they can be mounted onto the F3. Some AF lenses might not give you a good feel for manual focusing, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil_parker Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Minor correction to shun's answer; pre-AI lenses can be mounted and used on the F3 (w/ stop-down metering) by flipping up the follower tab on the lens mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Neil, you are correct. I never had an F3, but even my F4 has a follower tab that can be flipped up. The F5 doesn't come with that feature any more but it can be modified to add that feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_watson Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 I'd be tempted to stick with AI-AIS or NAI primes, the faster the better. I like the 35/2, 50/1.4, or old 85/1.8. These are very affordable now and work nicely with the F3's big bright finder. Budget for an MD-4, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin jordan Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 You can use any lens Nikon ever made for the F system. AI and AIs and AF with the aperture rings work the best. No AI lenses will work, but you need to pull up the meter coupling lever. The newer all electronic lens (the ones without the aperture ring) can only be used at full aperture. Any old non AI lens can be converted by John White for about $35.00. Good Shooting Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richam Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 My all time F3 favorite is the micro-Nikkor 55mm f2.8 lens. This lens has excellent balance with the F3 and a focusing ring that is located further forward than other lenses. It falls nicely and naturally in the hand when you are holding the camera. I much prefer this one to my 50mm/f1.4, which needs a thumb and single finger "pincer" grip with extended "pinkie" to operate the focus. And the continuous macro capability down to 25 cm is a nice feature. My other two favorites are the 105mm/f2.5 (a great portrait lens), and the 28mm/f3.5 for wide angle use. Any of these AI lenses can be found at reasonable prices. I tried but don't like the zoom lenses, e.g. the Nikon 43-86. Not a very wide zoom range, but moreover, just another adjustment to make before taking the photo. Enjoy your F3, a really superb machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebecker Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 John, If you are interested, I have several Nikon ais MF lenses posted in the PN Classified section. They include: 24mm f/2.8, 28mm f/2.8, 35mm f/1.4, 25-50mm f/4, 80-200mm f/4 and 400mm f/3.5 with chip. Enjoy using the F3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_2019667 Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 Thanks to all who responded. This will be a great help in looking for lenses. That's what I love about this site, lots of help from people who know and are willing to share. Thanks again. John P. ps.Dave I will check out your lenses in the classified section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterh Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Dave I hope you are not giving up on Nikon (Nice portfolio by the way). Those lenses are a nice collection - who would part from these unless to change the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben conover Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Hi John, I also have an F3 on it's way, great bargain for a great camera. I think the only thinkg it might lack is a meter like the Pentax LX, goes down to -6ev. I think the F3 is better built than the pentax though, from what I've heard. Perhaps I'll end up using it too! www.naturfotograf.com for Bjorn Rorslett's compilation of best of best nikkors ais 28/2.0, ais 28/2.8, ais 35/1.4, AF 85/1.4, 105/2 DC, ais 200/2.0 are among the very best. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 John,<br> <br> You will probably find AIS & AI Nikkors and better Series-E Nikon lenses the best choice. Some AF-D Nikkors are quite comfortable on the F3 and should not be over looked. If you own AF Nikon SLR(s) and DSLR(s) you may want to mix and match auto and manual focus lenses. Some AF Nikkors have a very short throw (degrees of rotation) on the focus control and are not well suited to manual focus. These should be avoided. Note that the F3 has no means for setting the lens aperture though the body so G type Nikkors need not apply. With the use of stop down metering and or a hand held light meter you can use many fine pre-AI Nikkors.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> Dave Hartman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky2 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Leave the AF, the really good ones are too expensive. Here's a fantastic set to start with: 28/2.8 AIS 50/1.8 AIS 105/2.5 AI/AIS Shop around, and get all three under $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee hamiel Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Similar to Yaron's suggestions: 28 f/2 - 50 f/1.8 & 105 f/2.5 + maybe a 180 f/2.8 - all either AI or AIS as you're learning the system so to speak. Have fun - I have owned at least three or four F3's & they are a great film camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn_rahman Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Yaron, Great choice of lenses - who would ever need anything more? I have all three of these, but prefer the 2.0 version of the 50. I like the 1.8, but the 2.0 is a tad sharper, IMHO. And the best thing - mine was MINT and cost $40 :-) John: Congrats on the F3HP; you will love it. I haven't used my AF bodies since I picked up my F3HP up a few months ago. The F3HP is just a pleasure to hold and use. Goud luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Lai Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 John,<p>The F3 is unique in being the only SLR that can meter properly with a shift lens. Try the 28mm f/4 PC or 28mm f/3.5 PC if you're into architecture. In the past, 35mm shift Nikkors were also made. There's also a 85mm Micro PC Nikkor with shift and tilt. All other SLRs require you to meter with the lens unshifted, then shift. The F3 will meter properly whether the lens is shifted or not.<p>Ben,<p>don't underrate the F3's low light ability. Nikon's published meter specs are notoriously conservative. The F3 has phenomenal low light ability. Check Lex's portfolio for some of the photos that he's shot in the dark. On auto, the F3 can time over an hour when exposing in the dark. It does eat up batteries while doing this however. The exposure compensation dial works too. For example, if the metered exposure is 30 minutes, +1 EV will give you a 60 minute exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfarlow Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 "The F3 is unique in being the only SLR that can meter properly with a shift lens." All cameras that can meter with Ai lens, can meter with the 28mm & 35mm Ai shift lens. You just have to meter before you do any shifting. I will agree that it is more convenient on the F3, since you can meter in the shifted position. It certainly eliminates one step. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben conover Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Robert, I think for such a long exposure it's very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 <em>Leave the AF, the really good ones are too expensive. --Yaron Kidron<br> </em><br> I have a strong preference for manual focus Nikkors on the F3 but the 35~70/2.8D AF and 80~200/2.8D ED AF Nikkors are reasonably price and perform better than similar manual focus lenses.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> Dave Hartman<br> <br> ---<br> <br> John,<br> <br> The lenses Ill recommend are the 20/2.8 AIS, 20/3.5 AIS or AI, 24/2.8 AIS or AI, 28/2.0 AIS or AI, 28/2.8 AIS but not AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2.0 AIS or AI, 50/1.8 AIS (early) or AI, 55/2.8 AIS Micro, 85/1.4 AIS, 85/1.8 H.C AI(ed), 105/2.5 AIS or AI, 105/2.8 AIS Micro, 105/4.0 AIS or AI Micro, 135/2.8 AIS or AI and 180/2.8 ED AIS. There are more but this should get you started. ;)<br> <br> I generally prefer AIS Nikkors for lenses longer than 50mm as they are generally smoother and faster to focus. The throw on the focus ring of AI Nikkors is longer and this results in a distance scale with more graduations and a more useful DOF scale. I generally prefer AI Nikkors for lenses that are shorter than 50mm as Im more likely to use the distance and DOF scales on these. AI Nikkor lenses often sell at a lower price than the AIS version. <br> <br> For zoom lenses I recommend the two above as well as the 25~50/4.0 AIS and 75~150/3.5 Series-E. <br> <br> For candid photos of people the 28/2.0, 50/1.8, 105/2.5 and 180/2.8 ED are my favorites. Ive never owned the 35/1.4 AIS or 28/2.8 AIS so Im going on the recommendation of better Nikkor lens reviewers. Here is a link to the best site Ive found for subjective Nikkor lens reviews...<br> <br> <a href="http://www.naturfotograf.com" target="_new"><u>http://www.naturfotograf.com</u></a> <br> <br> Im not associated in any way to the above but where I have done my own testing I find a very high rate of agreement and Ive been very pleased with lenses Ive bought based Bjorns reviews. The 28/2.0 AIS, 55/3.5 Nikkor-P Auto (compensating aperture), 105/4.0 AI and 400/5.6 ED AI are some examples. I almost sold my 20/3.5 AIS Nikkor after buying a 20/2.8 AIS but kept both after reading Bjorns reviews.<br> <br> When you want to travel light I find a waist pack designed to hold three lenses allows changing lenses even when walking. The secret is having front and rear lens caps for all lenses. You take one lens off and store it then take the next lens out and install it on the camera. This works for a total of three lenses. You can change lenses with just two hands ;)<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> Dave Hartman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebecker Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Walter, No, just selling off some of my MF lenses I'm not using very much and saving for a very expensive piece of glass. I do plan to stay with Nikon. Most of my photography these days is digital and some film with a F100 and AF glass. I am keeping a couple of ais MF lenses that have had the 'chip' added such as a 50-300mm. Thanks for the nice compliment. Best regards, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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