soumya_simanta Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Jeannie, You have got a real winner. Welcome to the club J Even with my "beginner" level skills and a D50 (on a tripod) I have got some results I like. The color contrast and bokeh of this lens is excellent. I�ve not used the 105mm Micro Nikkor, but the bokeh and colors I get with this lens are as good as (if not better) the 60mm Nikkor micro and 55mm MF Nikkor Micro. Robert, There are has been a good amount of discussion about this topic before. Please see the following threads. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00H1Fy http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00Gm9V http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00GtZm http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00GuGL Arnab and Brab have given some excellent examples. Attached are some of mine. But I think you need a focusing rail and a good tripod for this. I'm sure you would love it.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soumya_simanta Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 It really gets all the details you want.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soumya_simanta Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 And of course the bokeh and colors at large f values.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soumya_simanta Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 And if you want everything in one - color, bokeh and sharpness :) Special thanks to Arnab for recommending this lens.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janet cull Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Those are some amazing images! I'm glad Jeannie asked this question so all these could be shown in one spot. So nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_k1 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Thanks for the references, they answered lots of my questions. Here are a few more: Does the Lester lens has the buildin hood like the Kiron lens? Are there different versions or serials for either the Lester or Kiron lens we need to be aware of? Any photos of these lenses will be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabdas Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 <p><em>"Please now show some ugly creatures not only beautiful spiders and insects^^."</em> - Walter S.</p> <p>Walter, I have never seen an ugly insect in my life. If I still had to choose, I'd say the fire ants that ambush me every morning in the field :(</p> <p><em>"Does the Lester lens has the buildin hood like the Kiron lens? Are there different versions or serials for either the Lester or Kiron lens we need to be aware of? "</em> - Robert K.</p> <p>Robert - none if these lenses have a built in lens hood. The Lester A Dine and Kiron 105 are identical except for the label. Vivitar 100/2.8 and 105/2.5 AIS lenses have identical optical design but different mechanical designs. The 100/2.8 has a built-in sliding lens hood. </p> <p>I continue to be spellbound by this lens. When used properly, it will exceed your expectations everytime. Here's something I shot just a couple hours ago .....</p> <p> </p> <p align="center"><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/4887933-lg.jpg" width="754" height="507"></p> <p align="center"><em>Wasp in morning sun - D200 + Kiron 105mm/f2.8 1:1 Macro AIS, ISO 100 NEF</em></p> <p>And attached the 100% crops ...</p> <p> </p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradfarlow Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 "Does the Lester lens has the buildin hood like the Kiron lens?" Yes, mine does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean melissa Posted September 3, 2006 Author Share Posted September 3, 2006 Arnab, At my beginner level, which would you recommend for a focusing rail - the Kirk FR-1 or the Nikon PG-2 Focusing rails? I'm so excited... and I can see myself waking up really early in the morning to get the bugs and the morning dew just for this! Thanks again for all your help,Jeannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabdas Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Jeannie, I think the Kirk FR-1 will be easier to operate compared to PG-2. The PG-2 is heavy and doesn't let you mount by lens tripod collars. There are better focusing rails out there (Novoflex and RRS) but they are significantly more expensive. I find FR-1 perfectly adequate for my needs. Good luck on early morning macro nature photography, it's really exciting :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boggy_2 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 There ARE two different versions of this Lester A Dine lens, but the only difference is that the later version had the hood removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_k1 Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 Thanks, Boggy. That explains why there are two different answers about the buildin hood in this thread. The completed items at eBay showed both the Lester and the Kiron to have a buildin hood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_hall5 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 the leaster a. dine 105 = a great lens.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_hall5 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 another shot with lester. a dine 105<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_yvind_h_gset Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hi. I just won the auction on eBay. Awaiting a Lester Dine 105/2.8 with ring flash (plus a Nikon 6006). Can't wait to try it out. I want to dive into the world of macro photo. Insect, flowers, things, etc. Have a couple of questions about the lens (even before I start..) Is the lester dine ring flash any good for this kind of macro? I have a D80. What will be a good choice for tripod, considering the weight of the lens and the relative light D80? I am a little bit anxious about the metering/exposure. Anybody know if an upgrade/chip work is possible for this lens? BR. Øyvind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_butner___portland__or Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Arnab I've been saying for years, that with a touch of diffusion, it's a great portrait lens too. Russ (Kiron Kid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabdas Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 <I>Is the lester dine ring flash any good for this kind of macro? </I> <P> I'm afraid not. This flash won't do iTTL and it has not manual output control either. Using aperture to control exposure is just not practical in macro. Get a SB600, Lumiquest Ultrasoft Pocketbounce and Wimberley Macro Module F-2. <P> <I>I have a D80. What will be a good choice for tripod, considering the weight of the lens and the relative light D80? </I> <P> Gitzo Explorer 2220 with Acratech Ultimate ballhead V1. <P> <I>I am a little bit anxious about the metering/exposure. Anybody know if an upgrade/chip work is possible for this lens? </I> <P> It may be technically possible to have this lens chipped but hard to find someone to actually do it. You're better off with a handheld light meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabdas Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 "I've been saying for years, that with a touch of diffusion, it's a great portrait lens too. " - Russ Russ, it is one of the best lenses I've ever used. Closest to perfection if there ever was any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_vonholten Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 i owned the lester a. dine for my nikon film camera for years, and it's a fantastic lens for macro and portraiture. when i bought my pentax k100d, i traded the dine for a vivitar series 1, basically the same lens, and i rarely take it off my camera. it's so much sharper than the kit lens, and for the stuff i shoot, it's usually the right choice. even though i wasn't using it, the dine was a hard lens to part with, but when i found the trade, i couldn't resist picking up a version of this lens that i could use again, and passing along the nikon version to another photographer. congratulations on owning one of the finest lenses made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrakis_dune Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Is the Kiron 28-105mm one of these? f/3.2-4.5 macro 1:4 0/67 - 28-infintty 1.5 2.5 0.45 //// 22 16 11 8 5.6 4 '3.2 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyinca Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 "Is the lester dine ring flash any good for this kind of macro?" Lester Dine has at least two version of flash made for this lens. I have both version. The older version shown on picture above allow 0-100% contineous manual flash adjustment (no auto flash). If you are OK with the size of the power modual. this version will work with all camera bodies. The newer 2nd version is smaller and uses AA batteries and is also dedicated to the body (Nikon, Canon, and etc). It has the older film sensor base TTL but has no manual control. You will need to choose one designed for your camera (ie Nikon) and body that support old film TTL (not iTTL) ie, film body, Fuji S2-Pro or one of those top of the line D3 :-) If you don't have one of this type of body, the 2nd version's ring flash usefullness is limited. It does however have a thyresistor auto mode which work for the non- ring flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_k1 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 <p>Some ring flashes only have the ring but not the point flash. How useful is the point flash, for macros or otherwise?<br> I have a 8008s and Lester Dine 105/2.8. Aside from the mentioned Lester Dine ring flashes, are there other third party ones that will work well in my set up?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 <p>The RayFlash ring flash adapter and cheaper knockoff, the CoCo, might work as substitutes for a dedicated ring flash for macro photography. Both adapters fit over the head of some tilt-head hotshoe flash units. Check the manufacturers to be sure these adapters will fit your flash unit. As far as I can tell, both units use optical fiber to for a ring flash type effect from a more conventional hotshoe flash.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junius_wong Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 <p>hello, first time here. Been attracted to the macro pictures. They are fantastic.<br> Might I ask if the said Lester Dine macro lens be workable on a D3 camera? Any concerns?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_ditzel1 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 <p>It will work just fine with your D3...While it won't auto focus (of course) it will meter with your camera</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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