gee-bug Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Just saw that video of the M8 which made me think: will the shutter help protect the sensor from dust? At least better than the sensor/mirror configuration of a DSLR? Maybe this is a totally stupid question, feel free to educate me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working camera Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 nah not dumb questional at all... Its not like the DMR where you can basically "pull it to bits " and "clean" the sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working camera Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I'd like to know the answer myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_piper2 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Well, yes, having a shutter is better than having no shutter if the lenses come off. At least something stands between the sensor and Mr. Dust Bunny. DOn't know that it's any better than the DMR setup, though. The M8, according to the menus visible at those web sites that have now busted the embargo, has a "sensor cleaning" setting - which just means the shutter can be opened for the user to brush off any dust on the sensor (sort of an extreme version of "Bulb"). Actually, on my R-D1 I had about 2 dust specks show up on the pictures in 8 months - and that included several shoots at a dirt-paved car track (where there are tons of dust in the air all night long. And I jsut set the camera to 'bulb' for cleaning (the R-D1 did not have a "cleaning mode") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_tai Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Having also used the RD-1 for a while and frequently changing lenses out in the open it never had a dust problem. I always shut down the camera before changing lenses as I have read a charged CCD may attract dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry_pfile3 Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Your post reminds me of some info on a phamplet I got from Tamarkin re: their pedd;ing of the M8 last weekend. Among other things, if I order the body from them, for an additional $99 I can get their 'kit', which includes a sensor cleaning pack. Also, should I buy a new lens (coded) with the body, they'll throw in an additional lens coding for free. Seems that coding is NOT by Leica, but by a third party. Given the cleaning kit, must presume that the sensor can be cleaned at home. However, the ability to clean it also presumes it will/can get dirty in use. Hummm Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinay_patel Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 "Seems that coding is NOT by Leica, but by a third party." Do you have a specific document you can quote or is that just a speculation on your part? Since nobody but Leica knows the code sequence at this point, how could anyone but Leica provide the coding? Now on the topic of the question, I hope the M8 will have the same hard-coated cover shield that the DMR has. It might not reduce the dust adhering (I'm told CCDs attract more than CMOS)but at least it will make cleaning less of a risky operation in terms of damaging the sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_ardinger Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 A DSLR also has a shutter. The sensor is only "exposed" in a DSLR when the shutter is open. The moving mirror and the air rush of a zoom lens might contribute to more dust being in the mirror box of a DSLR but the shutter will be over the sensor in those cameras just as much as it will be for a M8/RD-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy_mancuso Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 It's a good question. not sure it would be better or worse than the DMR , I do know this in 14 months with the DMR i have only cleaned it 3 times and obviously it is the easiest sensor to clean. The M maybe easier to clean than canons and Nikons because it will be a LOT closer to the lens mount , so that will help with the digging in issue . Plus there is no mirror at all so really i would assume at this point it will be very easy to clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 OK, this will be all in caps for those not yet acquainted with sensor dust. SENSOR DUST IS NOT A BIG DEAL! It's easy to clean, and really is not as big of a deal as some people would have you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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