brian_donaldson1 Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 While at a gathing the other night, I was getting ready to take a photo. My 20D was pointed down and I accidently hit the * button and the flash went off. I was shocked. When I got home I read up on what that button did (besides for viewing playback). Well now the old brain is working overtime and I need some professional guidance. I now understand that the FE lock is used to maintain a flash exposure setting in memormy, but for only 16 seconds (I believe). That would have been perfect for this gathering, I did not move but my subject did. If I want to maintain the same exposure setting with the flash but for longer periods of time, can I not just get the meter settings then set the camera to M and program those exposure settings? Would that work or am I missing something? Was this enough information? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 >>can I not just get the meter settings then set the camera to M and program those exposure settings? Would that work or am I missing something?<< FEL (Flash exposure lock) works on the FLASH output only, doesn't do anything to the camera's aperture and shutter settings. Therefore, if you set the camera to M you'll only change the AMBIENT light not, the flash output, which is ONLY controlled by the E-TTL (including FEC, FEL and EC). Once the FEL expires you'll have to take another reading. The only other alternative would be to use the flash in MANUAL mode (E-TTL OFF) and use a flash meter to determine the exposure. In that case, you must use the camera in M mode and take a separate ambient light reading. That would be the best level of control one could achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_donaldson1 Posted September 12, 2005 Author Share Posted September 12, 2005 Yep, I'd say that I was deffinitly missing something. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinkle Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Doesn't FE lock also work on a sort of "flash spot metering" basis, taking only the value for a small part of the frame? That's what my 3 does, so I'd assume it's probably similar in the 20D. That would be important for something like a wedding where you may be running into extremes of contrast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark u Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Some confusing responses... If you hold the * button down after depressing it, the reading is maintained (see the manual). However, if your subject is moving (and therefore the flash-subject distance is changing), or the subject becomes lighter/darker than metered (e.g. turning to present different coloured clothing), the metered flash exposure will no longer be appropriate. Flash metering on the 20D uses the E-TTL II algorithm, which depends on the setting of CF 14: http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/#ettlii FEL operation is described here: http://photonotes.org/articles/eos-flash/index3.html#fel Setting a constant exposure in M mode only applies to the selected aperture and shutter speed, not the strength of the flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosdoc Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 Beware that any automatic adjustments, such as <a href= http://eosdoc.com/manuals?q=NEVEC >NEVEC</a>, are applied when you push FEL. <P> And if you understand FEL, you <a href= http://eosdoc.com/manuals?q=fakeFEC >adapt</a> it can make full use of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitmstr Posted September 12, 2005 Share Posted September 12, 2005 >>Some confusing responses...<< How's my response confusing? He asked: "can I not just get the meter settings then set the camera to M and program those exposure settings?" which means he *thought* he could manually set the flash settings resulting from FEL, which of course it's not possible. And that's exactly what I answered. And he understood it very well, hence his reply. What are you confused about my post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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