peter_werner1 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 We see some interesting shots, but 80% is, to mimick the LUG definition, "a dreary parade of grainy, B&W, poorly framed & composed, cat/ butt/ brat & empty-doorway snaps." I do not question the love of owners for their pets, children, girl friends et alia. Any suggestions on how to motivate contributors to have a more critical look at the aesthetic quality of their pictures before they publish them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyr_. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Good luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julienchavardes Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 it's just a cycle; several weeks, very good posts, then, several weeks, more mediocre ones... i agree posters of obvious "cheesy" shots should show some self-restraint, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajabbi Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Don't spoil my fun. I download the grainy, overly murky prints that are diasplayed, to Photoshop. I then can practice adding sperkle, adjusting color, lightening shadows etc. When I get it right, I erase it and wait for another to come along. When I goof up one of my negatives, I,now, have the know-how to repair it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis l. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Ok, if you insist.<p> Here is a nicely composed color "snap" of my dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond_wilson Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 No matter what ya post, somebody will think it's crap. And who would I be to argue? Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I think crafting great photos is a skill that doesn't intersect well with those who are really more into equipment ownership. It's a matter of priorities and of what you want your photography to be about. I can't speak for others, but I made a decision several months ago to not post pix here any more, mostly because of the dreadful photos that were being posted, due to a lack of care/editing, and having respect for where I place my images. It looks like others have done the same and are posting elsewhere. Ray's message from several months ago was spot on... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furcafe Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Why don't you lead by example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_stanton2 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 "No matter what ya post..." [grant] will think it's crap." And who are we to argue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjords Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 -----<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_werner1 Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Why don't you lead by example? If you insist.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_werner1 Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Travis,<br>Nice shot and beautiful dog. Labrador?<br>Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis l. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 <i>Nice shot and beautiful dog. Labrador?</i><p>Thanks Peter, and yes he is mostly Lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_tolley2 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 If only 80% of shots posted were dreary then we'de have 20% that were interesting and those are pretty good percentages. I think you're an optimist. And since adminstration guted the Leica Forum the other day it looks much worse. The best shooters aren't posting. The best talkers aren't talking. If we want a place like this to look and display and talk photography then we better find a better way to cohabit because this just ain't gettin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis l. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Peter, this isn't a Leica shot, but very similar to yours.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icuneko Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 First the Pancake Bunny, now the Boring Nag. Things are looking up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 <i>Any suggestions on how to motivate contributors to have a more critical look at the aesthetic quality of their pictures before they publish them?</i> <p> Nothing's worked so far, and I'm begging to think most people here like it as is. It's a little like a Ferrari club day at Lime Rock Park: A bunch of well-to-do, clubby people get together and turn lap times a tuned Honda Civic could beat, then they go back to the pits, eat cheese and talk about the 'specialness' of their vehicles. The rudest thing you could do, of course, is ask them why their Italian thoroughbreds are so freaking slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_werner1 Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Travis,<br> Similar composition, very different atmosphere.<br><br> Now a very different one<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_werner1 Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Kevin,<br> <i>lap times a tuned Honda Civic could beat</i><br> Need not even be tuned...<br><br> Would you have some pictures you consider good to post here and now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kajabbi Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Asw a dog enthusiast, I think this is a slight improvement<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_werner1 Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Critics, please speak out and post what you consider some of your better pictures<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliesteiner Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Peter quoted: "grainy, B&W, poorly framed & composed, cat/ butt/ brat & empty-doorway snaps." That statement really doesn't hold up well to scrutiny. None of the descriptors necessarily characterises poor photography, except for "poorly framed and composed". 1.Grainy: There are good and bad photos that are grainy; same goes for not grainy. 2.B&W: Nothing wrong with B&W photos. Ansel Adams and Walker Evans made some mighty good ones. 3.Cat/ butt/ brat & empty doorway shots: The subject, in and of itself, never determines the artistic level of a photo. There are wonderful photos of somebody's kid and lousy photos of whatever trendy subject one can name. So maybe the author of that statement just needs to have a few prunes. Live and let live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom h. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Might be a start if we could stop making blanket statements about how bad everyone(elses) work is. Altho this particular one I agree with- "If you're not taking bad photographs, you're not taking good photographs". And the constant describing of this forum as a fondling gearhead meet is SUCH an insult to the truly able photographers who show here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom h. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 <center><img src="http://gallery.photo.net/photo/3155488- lg.jpg"></center><br><center>"winklepicker"(or, "I'm happy to fail daily")</center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom h. Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Apologies, did I type "describing"?- I meant "implying" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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