jim_payette Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 With both cameras set the same the D60 looks many stops underexposed compared to the G2. Even giving the D60 more exposure the G2 looks better. Waddup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Please, try and be more vague in your next post. All these details are making my head swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_payette Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Sorry Rob. Let me simplify. All things being equal the G2 makes nice bright pictures in low light when the D60 does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oofoto Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Are they both in manual mode with the same ISO? Sorry to ask the obvious. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_bibbs Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Are you taking available light or with flash? JPEG or RAW? Although not a direct comparison, I found that the G5 images looked great when shot in JPEG as resized to 800x600 when compared to those from the 20D. However, when shooting RAW with a 11x14 or 12x18 being the final goal, I get better material to work with from the 20D than the G5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 << All things being equal the G2 makes nice bright pictures in low light when the D60 does not. >> Bright pictures on what? Prints? Monitor? Cameras LCD? The ISO rating on Canon digital point and shoots does appear to be agressive. This has been known for some time. See dpreview.com reviews for this. They've started noting "listed" ISO and "acutal" ISO for many of the cameras they see. But the difference has never been more than 1 stop, usually a third or two thirds of a stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_payette Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Both cameras were in the JPEG mode. I just did another test, again all things being equal-ISO etc. The G2 was good at 1/30 and 2.8 and to duplicate the look on the monitor the D60 had to be set at 1/ 8 and 2.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_bibbs Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Why don't you post the images so we can see for ourselves and read the EXIF data. Mayber there is a clue in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Can you post said test images? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Er, yeah, what Christopher said :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin_lau Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 iso50 on the G2 is not iso50, more like iso100. The iso100 on the Canon DSLR's is more correct. All Canon digicams have this problem, you have to multiply the iso settings by 2 to get the real setting. Check it against your light meter if you have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_payette Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 KIN what you said seems about right in my situation. The G2 is at least one stop brighter. Also adding to the problem all things were not equal. The display on the G2 is brighter than on my D60. When compared the images on my computer screen they were closer.I guess it's time to read the manual and see about screen brightness.Thanks for everyones help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_bibbs Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Never try and judge the exposure by looking at the image on the camera's LCD. They aren't calibrated to any useful standard. Look at the image to roughly judge compensation and switch to the histogram to judge exposure. It should make life much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 << The display on the G2 is brighter than on my D60 >> *sigh* Learn to use the histogram not the LCD display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_bell Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I think I have the only D60 that works in low light and doens't have an AF issue. I will trade it for a brand new 1D Mk 2 :) any takers? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socke Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hm, with my G2 and D60 things couldn't be less equal. Fujipress 800 and the Planar 45 is pretty good for low light and Delta3200 is good enough for available darkness. Fujipress carefully exposed is better than the D60 at ISO800 but with the help of Noise Ninja the D60 comes close. OTOH it is not fair to compare a CZ Planar to a Sigma 17-35 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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