j_robinson2 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 http://www.wftv.com/news/10065272/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news Mother Says Daughter's Class Picture Was Doctored POSTED: 6:20 pm EDT October 12, 2006UPDATED: 12:18 pm EDT October 13, 2006 ORLANDO, Fla. -- A local family is outraged by a school photo. When the pictures came back from the studio, a seven-year-old girl?s image appeared to have been doctored to give her cleavage. The debate is whether the photo just has a very strange shadow or it's been digitally altered by someone. ------------------------------------ Go and take a look at this one. Poor lighting technique and the opinion of photo "experts" probably not smart enough to find their butt in a bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_chase1 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I saw this posted on another forum and the concensus (granted, from only about 4 photogs) is that it is probably poor lighting, though it does look questionable. My professional opinion on it (as both an experienced photoshopper and photographer - and some one who thinks before answering such a question ;)) is that I can't tell from the image posted online to give you a real answer. The image online is too small, too low res, and not being able to see the catchlights in her eyes to really know where the lights are just leaves to many uncertainties. Show me the high res file and then I will give you an opinion on it. One opinion I can give though...shoot raw!! I am guessing this photographer didn't, otherwise it seems it would have been a pretty easy case to solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primeimages Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Looks like a lighting problem to me. I pressume there is no malice on the part of the school photographer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nee_sung Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 That doesn't even look like cleavage to me. Its shape is reversed. And judging from the lighting, it most probably was bad lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonnalos Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I think that it's bad lighting. If you look at the shadows on her upper chest from the jean jacket, there are likely two lights being used. It looks like they are each 45 degrees offset, overhead slightly and set at equal power. The edge of each side of the jean jacket forms a shadow inward onto her chest. The dark area is where the two shadows overlap and no fill light is able to reach. I'd just like to point out that this wouldn't have been a concern if the parents dressed the girl in a shirt that came reasonable close up to her neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstubbs Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 What stands out is the photographic company was not paying attention. They earned flack for not taking reasonable care in providing the product supplied. Children deserve more. As for the mother and the media hype? I just don't get it. Publishing the image does not gain anything...other than attention for the news organisation. If the debate is as you say "whether the photo just has a very strange shadow or it's been digitally altered by someone" then the debate is about the wrong issue as far as philosophy of photography is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanphysics Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Where is her shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cham Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 true she shouldn't have been wearing something so low cut at that age... but to me it looks like a lighting problem... the two shadows from the jacket converging to form a darker shadow... I've asked the photography "experts" here at work and they concur with my thoughts... i always like how the american media finds these "experts" to back up the slant they're taking on the story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 What's wrong about finding "experts"? - The whole media business is about stirring up as cheap and fast as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbayley Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Definately bad lighting. How slim were they for news this day in Florida? Did'nt Bush "aquire" most of his votes from here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben Silva Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Looks to me it is a digital alteration. The shadows on her chest have too strong contrast, if they where real, they would cause strong shadows on her face features. This is not coherent at all, unless you use an image editing software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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